If you’ve spent any time browsing through this blog I’m sure you can see that I’m a big believer in spending as much time as humanly possible out in this part of the world.
I’ve never been a big fan of the Traditional Agency process nor am I a supporter of any of the dating websites that seem to be so popular these days like Match or eHarmony dot com..
Sorry.. but I’m proudly an old fashioned kind of guy when it comes to courtship and relationships.
I truly believe that plain ol’ simple normal human interactions are the way Mother Nature intended us to interact and bond.
The biggest problem I have with any of the so called modern web based dating methods is that it tries to sell us more of a convenience as opposed to a true man to woman connection.
In the West we are so used to having everything on demand ranging from Domino’s arriving at our door step to the Tivo boxes hooked up to our Plasma Screens that we are so totally conditioned to believe that the same Pavlovian instant gratification process can somehow be applied to finding a real, legitimate and loving mate.
Sorry Buddy..
Not going to happen in my mind..
Even if there is any measure of “success” in searching online for someone to “hang out” with..
Or worse yet..
To “hook up” with then we have just totally cheated ourselves big time..
The mystery and awe of a chance encounter along with that first initial glance into the piercing eyes of a beautiful maiden is now completely gone..
And in today’s world it has sadly been substituted with the sterile process of an online resume exchange and a possible follow-up job interview disguised as a “date”.
Gentlemen..
Trust me on this one..
This is not how you want to start your new life with a lady.
The moment you both mouse clicked each other’s online profile was the moment you both volunteered yourselves towards becoming a cheap commodity in an endless catalog of other like minded commodities.
Is this harsh?
Yes I’m afraid it is..
Is this reality?
Yes I’m afraid it is..
This type of commodity mentality is literally killing us.. spiritually for sure.. and when that happens our bodies are sure to follow and the proof of this is everywhere.
We unfortunately live in a world where this is the norm as far as “dating” is concerned.
When I ponder this situation I’m reminded of a scene from “The Matrix” when Neo is shocked to see another human being for the first time who doesn’t have mechanical and computer interface “holes” in his body.
Neo : You don’t…you don’t have any…
Tank :
Holes? Nope. Me and my brother Dozer, we’re both one hundred percent pure, old fashioned home-grown human, born free! Right here, in the real world.
Now I use this example because if you could see how dating and courtships traditionally work in this part of world that I live in..
You too might feel shocked like Neo and start wondering how any of this could have been done without computers or the internet..
So let me cut to the chase and state the obvious..
The absolute best way to meet incredible Russian Girls is to live among them.
And although this is great step in the right direction it is ONLY the first step that you need to take..
Because if you haven’t done so already to an acceptable level..
You will still need to grow.. grow.. grow.. and grow some more in all the important ways that transform you into attractive man that any real lady would want to be with in the first place.
I cannot over-emphasize this point Gentlemen..
Re-read it several times if you need to.. because IT’S THAT IMPORTANT..
Now if you’ve made it to this point then the final step in preparing for all of this is to develop or join a SOCIAL NETWORK where you can make the right friends and acquaintances.
In a ideal setting you would have a popular social network that is just flowing with the type of ladies that you wish to meet.
Now are any of these steps easy to do?
Certainly not..
But these steps are the crown jewels in terms of obtaining what it is you really want in the precious life that you have left.
And I have a pretty good idea as to what that something is..
It’s because when I made the decision to do this for myself..
I just had a clear realization that I could choose to build a house out of straw in no time flat but still have to constantly rebuild it time and time again…
OR
I could just bite the bullet and build something that I knew was going to last forever.. brick by precious brick..
Or in the immortal words of an engineering friend who was always never at a loss for expressing deep truths..
“Good bridges are always expensive to build..”
“But they always pay for themselves many times over..”
September 11, 2007 at 10:09 am
Tell me something i don´t know, although i agree with most of the ideas in your blog, i don´t understand “the dogmatic fanatism” about east women, they are no diferent than any other, I was in Kiev when i was younger and did not find much diference, ofcourse they were traditional, kind and feminine, but i also found a few troubled women there, but the same traditional and troubled women can be found in Portugal also, here in Portugal we have a considerable number of east europeans and i have seen some of these women behave in a way that rivals with west women,there are cultural diferences but, in my idea women are women only the environment changes.
September 11, 2007 at 2:44 pm
“i don´t understand “the dogmatic fanaticism” about east women … of course they were traditional, kind and feminine”
Simon…
Thank you for confirming what we know without question.
Your life is your own to follow. And if Western girls work for you then knock yourself out.
Life is complicated enough without shifting countries. Still, I so strongly hold the belief of the power of ethos, that I decided to make the change to Russia. There is “her” and “our future daughter and son” and how “the environment” alters the traditional roles and can make their lives considerably more complex and less happy.
GL regularly makes a distinction between the not so fine and the local “good” girls.
Our primary reason for our enthusiasm is that when it’s good with a Eurasian, they are far finer than the “good” girls of the West. It’s all a question of degree.
And with regard to “all girls are the same”, I couldn’t disagree more. Ethos is a fairly extensive topic.
There is no great global social movement to Canadian girls either, my friend. There is nothing stopping this except the great differences between Eurasian and Canadian girls. Men around the world are not stupid. The women in the West are seriously outclassed… generally.
And yes, there are huge differences. Good that the less fine ones are independently immigrating to the West. Perhaps their local value made it obvious to them that perhaps the “liberated” West would put up with their bad attitude. Ethos.
And yes, I have encountered a few in Toronto. They didn’t have a man there either.
Yes, I have known a truly fine Portuguese girl. Really fine heart. Just and only ever friends. And in spite of this fine ambassador, and the fact that I was free to look to her ethos for my own, I liked much better what I saw in Russia.
And thank God I did. It’s not easy to say to that one is truly happy.
Good luck with your Portuguese girl. And the Freemason governments which own your as well as my soon-to-be former country.
Yes, love is a type of fanaticism. However, it is the who we obsess about which seems to have created a considerable social movement.
Western governments and societies are all relatively the same. Global collusion is not a coincidence. This same series of coordinated legislatures produce very similar ethos. And then, therefore, the perception that we are all the same.
Russia owns its own legislature. If you search NTV in Russia you can find the newscast which educated the population about the Western shadow governments and how this is an ongoing threat to the better interests of Russia and the people of Russia.
Russia is not Western. And neither are the girls.
Long live this difference.
Have a good one. I know I will.
September 11, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Hi Simon..
Dogmatic Fanaticism eh? Wow I’ve never heard that one before..
But seriously if you want to hang out in Portugal and are happy with the women there all the more power to you. But I’m confused as to why you are visiting this blog and have already stated that you agree with most of what’s here.
In any case.. I don’t feel that what I’m promoting here is “dogma”. If you want real “dogma” go hang out with a bunch of American or Western Feminists for a while.
Then I think at that point you will get some of your perceptions “adjusted”.
Good Luck to you..
GL
September 11, 2007 at 5:53 pm
Dogmatic Fanatacism?? LOL.
This coming from the person who says things like “WE WILL FIND AND KILL ALL THE ENEMIES OF LUSITANIA” in the middle of discussions which have nothing to do with any of that.
LOLOL
(And I’m decidedly NOT linking to that particular rapidly-degenerating blog…)
September 11, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Further to my point about the differences between Eurasians and Western girls…
CAREER IMPORTANCE V. FAMILY PRIORITIES.
That just about says it all for me.
In the West, as GL has noted so well on his blog, the Western girls too often think about family when they are well beyond their birthing prime. Sort of like squeezing in her 1.2 kids at the last possible moment.
Why the last possible moment? Because, it’s obvious, isn’t it? Children and family are a very low priority, generally speaking, and quite far down on the totem pole.
And that means that these women are married to their careers instead of hotly pursuing an eligible and dependable husband and father from the first flowering of their womanhood.
I don’t like being squeezed in between board meetings and treated like an indifferent afterthought. I bring a whole slew of significantly helpful assets to the family table. And I don’t like the innuendo or the insult.
I am not an afterthought. I am a forethought.
In Russia, if a girl gives birth in a hospital, then already at about 28, or is it 30?, the chart lists her case as “a mature birth” noting possible birthing complications.
For heaven’s sake, in the West 30 is still Miller time at the corporate room for Feminazi’s. Children? Who has time for family?
My fiance is extremely capable in her career. However, in spite of that fact, I have never met a girl more manic about family planning in all my life. Her not so subtle obsession.
Instead of comparing career goals when I dated Western girls her same age; with her from the get go I was constantly tested as husband and father material. Constantly. Constantly. Constantly. Starting to get the point about constantly?
And it has never stopped. She is obsessed with becoming wife and mother. Who cares about the career which is meaningless to her in the grand scheme of things?
And about the fact that men around the world are not generally making this same beeline to Portuguese girls… Don’t take it personally in spite of your very obvious Portuguese pride. [And yes, the Portuguese friend has the heart of an angel.] To each their own.
And remember all Western men and their local girls are in this same boat.
Some of why I went Eurasian.
And much of why I myself am now fan/fanatic in my love of my girl.
I wish I had a few hundred years with her. Helps that I believe in halves and reincarnation. Apparently we don’t land together very often.
Appreciation. Every day like it is a gift.
Anyone got any ideas for how to extend the snowless season in Siberia?
September 12, 2007 at 10:41 am
The Russians, Ukrainians like to call it destiny when two people meet by chance. It is not so hard for this to happen when one is in their culture. Most people take the public transportation so each day as people move about doing their business they come into contact with a great number of persons of the opposite sex. Unlike how it is here in the states where one hops in their car and drive door to door so the chance meeting is curtailed.
I remember it very distinctly, in one of the district in Moscow as I was entering the internet cafe, opening the door to enter, and coming into view in the corner of my eyes, this gorgeous Russian girl in her early 20’s, nice long legs, beautiful glowing hair, nice shapely body was just headed towards the same cafe that I was about to enter. My radars went crazy. Man, it was magic and it was potent.
“The mystery and awe of a chance encounter along with that first initial glance into the piercing eyes of a beautiful maiden is now completely gone..”
I totally agree, the convenience of the internet does take away that magic first moment encounter.
So want to know what happens next. We were there in the cafe together within eye-shot of each other. Surprisingly she threw glances at me and I at her. So I knew there was interest; however, my Russian was rather poor and I didn’t quite feel comfortable making the approach. Some time went by which seemed like forever. So afterward, she stood up to leave and I thought well, it’s now or never. She took off, had about 3 minutes lead, before I headed out the same door. As I got out, I saw that she had reached the corner and made the turn onto another street. Man I gotta walk fast; so hurriedly, I tried to catch up. So I got to the corner, and shortly into the cross street I did walk quickly. And passing one of the booths selling mobile phone cards, there she was again. Smiling profusely at myself, she knew that I was following her. And so she made the point to stop for me. But how did she know? Pretty sure it was not a coincidence that she stopped there; didn’t seem like she really needed a recharge on her phone. To this day, I can’t figure out. The Russian people, they seem to have this extra sensory perception. So I mustered all my knowledge of Russian and greeted her in Russian then asked if she knew English. She said yes. What a relief…
So there it is, gents, My testament to the truths of this above post.
Truly, why cheat ourselves… with these creatures of magic.
-M
Rexpat, congrats on being out there, you did it!!!
September 12, 2007 at 11:23 am
GL,what about my last comment?
Do you fear criticism or deviation from the dogma that you censor any opinion that is diferent?
As I said before I don´t understand the fascition with east women, I was there, and they are women as any other, I like brazilian women but I don´t put them on a pedestal the way you do.
I come from a family with ancient roots in Portugal, about 700 years, so I could never leave my country.
We know that there is masonic influence in Portugal, but things are changing…fast, trust me.
I still think women are women, ofcourse there are ethnic-cultural diferences, and you can have your own personal preference as it serves your interests.
My way is not your way and your way is not my way.
September 12, 2007 at 11:35 am
Simon your last comment automatically ended up in my spam filter because you are putting up youtube links that have very little to do with this subject.
Frankly I’m starting to question your state of mind a bit because of your disconnected commentary.
Going to Kiev for a short visit a long time ago and meeting various russian girls in Portugal doesn’t quite match with some of the experience level that I or others on this blog have “living in country”.
Simon what is your agenda here?
To complain that I or others have respect and admiration for various Russian Women that we’ve come into contact with?
Sorry Simon but I would expect that type of comment from a jealous western Feminist or from a man who is of a different sexual orientation.
If that’s the case.. this is certainly not the blog for you. unless of course you can make a more lucid point.
GL
September 12, 2007 at 12:14 pm
More shame and blame!
My agenda here is simple, although i agree with most of the things in your blog, the comments of some of your comrades leave much to be desired, the debate originaly came from Siberianow where Luke stated a diferent opinion about Mens Activism and east women and some of your comrades started bashing him down, when I interfered in Luke´s defense with logic arguments, they did the same to me, this proves that any deviation from the dogma will grant a visit from the inquisition,and continued on your blog, is this the reazoning of “real men”? as if they know what that is, a man is made over the years.
I respect portuguese and brazilian women but i don´t put them on a pedestal.
I respect your ways and I do not critic them, because they are your ways and serve your interests, now I would like to have the same respect from your comrades if they are men enough, because I respect all cultures and think that every man is free to live is life as he sees fit, regardless of what others think or say.
September 12, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Simon. Leave him be. He’s not a part of this.
He has been my mentor ever since November.
He’s not a part of this.
He doesn’t control what those guys do.
September 12, 2007 at 5:56 pm
Ok, ok, my apologies then.
I don´t like dogmatic behavior and I am Man enough to recognize my mistakes.
September 12, 2007 at 10:36 pm
No Problemo Simon..
September 13, 2007 at 4:08 am
Oh GL… Perhaps a bit of perspective on the no problemo.
This was deposited in my garburator/spam…
“YOU WILL BURN IN HELL!!!MISERABLE MORTAL!!!
WE WILL FIND AND KILL ALL THE TRAITORS AND ENEMIES OF LUSITANIA. die in your own stupidity!”, simon…
“Frankly I’m starting to question your state of mind a bit because of your disconnected commentary.”, GL…
Very good.
Now what is your position on the use of Russian girls for prostitutes and sex tours by men who aver that women should be used primarily for this? Not to speak of defending the use of SEX DOLLS? What?
And if you want to make a visit on your protege’s?[He has been my mentor ever since November.luke] blog and see how a mentally unstable individual who uses a Russian region’s name for a blog who has absolutely no attachment to it, visits an entirely different country, and then makes the monumental leap of suggesting Philipino’s and other Asians as sex toys and sex tours and going so far as to proclaim his intentions of getting a job there paying enough to keep him in daily hookers. What? And this is your protege as he claims?
And if not; then, now might be a good time to tell myself, wolverine and Ceiver that you are not offended by men whose contempt for Russian girls is so deep that this is their idea of their best use, because when we did defend the honour of Russian girls and others in general; you’d swear they actually had an ethical leg to stand on.
We’re all pritty clear on it, ourselves.
So when luk claims no issue with you, what is he saying about you who apparently is wall to wall on the deep respect for these spectacularly fine girls? That is if your philosophy reflects no difficulty with men who view them as sex tour and prostitute material because they are so socially retarded that no Russian girl will have a serious relationship with them?
I currently think so little about them that due to the tone of simon’s original comment I’d forgotten that he is “that” simon. I see no point in allowing the lunatics the energy to divert my great day to a bad one.
The liberty in free speech has a cost and an entry fee. And they seduced my once. Not again. So I put a stop to them.
But I notice from my dashboard reports that they are probably reading me regularly as they are linking what I have no interest in reading. Apparently they continue to be fascinated with a Real man who has it all. And envy from this continues. Not surprised.
A glass ceiling? Tell it to their momma’s who would probably slap them for using women as cheap excuses for a failed social life.
My own take is that you’ve been far too busy actually enjoying your life with your beloved to go blog hopping and that they are simply taking advantage of this.
I’m going out of my way to show who and what I am in my personal life to the point of having a show and tell blog now. So relatively speaking, who has more credibility? The guy with the girl? Or the ones with a penicillin prescription?
I don’t see their hookers on blog parade. Of course there are no Real girls. Send a press release, I’m in shock.
And as far as my recommendation that men should emigrate to Eurasia, I was called a traitor for abandoning the Western insanity.
And btw, the same guy who called off the dog did disavow you. Why am I not surprised at this level of irregular persectives?
Whack jobs.
No doubt I will see luke’s new heerow blogging a scathing rebuttal in the form of post links to me. So he dedicated his top spot to the psycho who couldn’t lead a small band of psychotics?
And now he purports this refound respect for you? Perhaps he forgets to read his own quite bizarre ideas about girls in general and how they conflict dramatically with yours. Certainly I, wolverine and Ceiver hold no confusion about our profound respect for Russians.
And then he adds his lame comment of “Simon. Leave him be. He’s not a part of this.” Just what part of not respecting Russian girls and encouraging sex tours and prostitution are you a part of according to luke?
The questions are rhetorical. However a brief commentary would certainly make your obvious philosophy egregiously clear to the pro-boys.
Regards.
September 13, 2007 at 10:17 am
More shame and blame!
If you are so certain of who you are, why all this dogmatic behavior?
I have a neutral stance to prostitution, if a man wants to use a hooker, that is his problem, nobody else, every man should be free to live his life his way, that is one of the main messages in GL blog and most Men Activism, I may not agree with some of the views of others, but I don`t bash them down, what is the point in that?
Well I will hold my silence in respect for GL and Luke.
September 13, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Rexpat,
You bleeding liar.
I never defended the use of sex dolls per se. You’re intentionally taking me way out of context. I wrote an article about it in response to another article that was written by Jessica Valenti, the hysterical feminist who runs the feministing.com website, in which Valenti had the audacity to dictate to men what they could and could not do within the privacy of their own homes.
What men do in the privacy of their own homes is none of yours, or feminist Jessica Valenti’s, business.
You refer to me as mentally unstable, yet you have absolutely no proof of this. Anyway, support/advocacy of sex tours is actually not some evil concoction that was drempt up by me. It is a tactic which has been part of the MRM playbook for a long time. And no, the MRM is not going to start tossing out all its tactics against feminism just because you command it.
I’m just curious Rexpat, you act like you are a huge guru on everything Russia. How much time have you actually spent there? Tell me.
That’s a straw man argument. You yourself, not even GL, but YOU Rexpat, constantly blabbed about how you would have to have all these discussions about your shortcomings with your girlfriend, and also recently talked about how she would constantly test you. I had a girlfriend once from central Michigan. Very sweet and feminine, and beautiful. And I don’t ever remember having one discussion about my shortcomings, or having her constantly test me. The biggest test for me with her was merely finding such a girl in the West, which is damn near impossible, but I did it. After that, I was fine.
Just because guys don’t want to put up with being constantly tested, and discussions about their shortcomings, and maybe don’t have all the characteristics on that big laundry list that you guys made up, doesn’t mean that they’re socially retarded. Like I said, that’s a straw man argument.
Nice try, but I’m not linked to you anymore, so whatever you’re getting on your dashboard isn’t coming from me, except maybe from where you posted comments on my blog. I took your link off my site because you unapologetically posted a picture of the President of the United States being raped in the ass by the mass murderer Osama bin Laden, who is responsible for the deaths of over 3,000 Americans, and then basically made light of it. Recently here in the United States we had an anniversary of that terrible day where we paid homage to those who lost their lives. But obviously it’s just a big joke to you, which is both sick and incredibly disrespectful to the dead and their families. If you had it all, you wouldn’t feel the need to make a joke about a ghastly incident which cost over 3,oo0 American lives in order to prop up your sagging ego. You’re not a real man at all.
First of all I don’t have a failed social life. Second of all if my mother ever hit me, I’d hit her back, so don’t try that cheap line on me.
That right there shows me and everyone else that you have the maturity level of someone who is in junior high school. “Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah I got the girl and you don’t Nyah Nyah Nyah!” You claim to take some sort of moral high ground over me, but everything you do follows exact same pattern: You having to flaunt and show off and put other people down in order to raise your own fragile ego.
You have never, not even once, defined the term “Real girl.” And in fact the definition, if it even has one, seems to change every time it suits your fancy.
Masculist Man is not a psycho. He is incredibly respected within the Men’s Rights Movement, and you, Wolverine, Ceiver, and Socon have managed to p*ss off not only him, but a significant number of other people within the Men’s Rights Movement. Now because of your antics, I’m having a hard time even getting people in the MRM to trust GL anymore, which is a big shame because GL has a lot of information which is relevant and useful to the movement.
Refound respect? No, it’s always been there. I have been advocating and promoting GL within the MRM solidly from November until now. And in fact I’m going to bring Masculist Man over to GL’s blog, because I want my two heroes to meet one another. It is something that is long overdue.
I wasn’t talking about sex tours and prostitution there. I was talking about YOU. You, Wolverine, Ceiver, and Socon left so much of your fecal matter all over my blog that Simon who was curious went over to this blog where it came from, and Simon thought that GL had something to do with your leaving of your droppings all over my blog, since it was his blog where you all came from. I told Simon that GL had nothing to do with it, which was correct. He had absolutely nothing to do with it. It is YOU GUYS who have been acting ridiculously for the past few weeks, making fools of yourselves, and have been getting a score of people p*ssed off at yourselves
You know, I’ve often told the other guys in the MRM about the great ability of GL’s readers to win debates against feminists. But after looking at your recent posts on my blog, some of the guys in the MRM sent me messages telling me things like “I don’t get it, how did these Russian women guys ever win a debate?” This is because their first impression of them was unfortunately you, whose style of argumentation strongly resembles that of a 3-year-old.
And in fact, that is why you had to take your trash against me over here to this blog, because you couldn’t withstand the challenges and scrutiny of my readers and myself.
I don’t want or need anything from you. Honestly, I don’t want anything to do with you. But when you spread lies about myself and other people in the Men’s Movement, that is when you have crossed the line.
My personal suggestion for you is that you get back on the right side of that line, and refrain from crossing it again in the future.
Men’s Rights Activist,
Luke Skywalker
September 13, 2007 at 12:09 pm
and Mr Simon
what is your stance on sex slavery trade, which was the main argument presented to Luke?
what is your stance on “Russian women worshippers” which we have been labled for seeking a woman with traditionl values.
what is your stance on Mr Lukes depiction of us as transvestites by a video he has posted?
Mr Luke has attacked GL and Rexpat for finding the joy in their lives, each from a Russian women, who share a “laundry list” of values.
September 13, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Ceiver - You liar. I never attacked GL. Show me one place where I attacked GL.
September 13, 2007 at 12:26 pm
You (Ceiver, Rexpat, Wolverine, and Socon) were not labeled Russian women worshippers because you seek a woman with traditional values. Once again Ceiver you show your propensity to set up straw man arguments, and to misrepresent what other people say.
You were labeled Russian women worshippers because you put them on a pedestal and assume that they are golden and refused to listen to any common sense surrounding the matter.
September 13, 2007 at 1:46 pm
I won’t go on you site anymore Luke. It is filled with bile and confusing philosophies. Sort of like flavour of the month.
And yes, I too know what I read when you wrote that people like myself and GL are on one side, and your codisciples are on another. This was, of course, of course, not too long after you spoke in the opposite camp about how much you were grateful for those very same people.
You are mentally unstable. And it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
You bring nothing but negativity to any site. I gave you credit for much more than your character warrants and regret having defended it.
Sex tours, prostitution, getting a job which can keep you in hookers when living in the cheap tricks part of the world, sex dolls, Russian women are too hard to please? And after all this you show up here in the house that profound respect and admiration built and pretend to have a character which “fits in” while playing off my good character against that of GL?
And again, Ceiver is absolutely correct. Yes, it is shameful to use sex slavery workers. So when “simon says” claims to not have a problem when other boys are using girls this way, then he simply doesn’t have the character to denounce it.
And yes, that is to blame. And deserves every bit of it.
So, when you cry out this nonsense defence of blame and shame; then, you both should not be surprised. You deserve every bit of it.
We are not the only ones who see you this way. Not according to some of the other comments. So playing this targeting routine is a commentary on selective memory.
Prostitution, sex tours, sex slavery, sex dolls are all pathetic evidence of socially inept boys who most often can’t inspire true desire in a Real girl who gives it freely and passionately. And there ain’t no amount of money which can buy it.
And yes, I have a huge problem with all men whose solution to not knowing what must be learned is any of the above.
It speaks of a pathetic, failed life.
And as far as childish video routines are concerned… I don’t really care. Garbage author, garbage comments.
September 13, 2007 at 5:15 pm
GL: Btw, another great post… keep on writing.
September 14, 2007 at 12:32 am
Ceiver is not a liar. And he also doesn’t misrepresent himself or his genuine views.
One day Luke praises me and GL for reflecting his views. And another day he’s creating a sacred grail for a man who purports that respect of Russian girls is unfounded and reflective of grovelling. Not to speak of views of girls as an exchange of sex for money. The polar opposite of those respectful of Russian girls.
Love has no price. And what is offered in love cannot be calculated in terms of money. It’s priceless.
So instead of sitting at the restaurant with the ho calculator and debating the putting out or not putting out issue on a dinner bill graph, it would make the whole debate moot if a man concentrated on the door to her heart and how or if it can be opened by him.
There is a huge difference between consentual casual sex and prostitution. No-one had to kidnap and multiple rape to emotionally break the slave to be the bed mate in her choice of partner.
I asked my girl about the Russian prostitution issue and why they simply don’t refuse to act as slave prostitutes.
She told me that their choice is to do it or “go missing permanently”. Every year hundreds upon hundreds of Russian girls die with their honour.
And what drives this demand for prostitutes and the killing fields and destroyed lives of otherwise entirely wonderful Russian girls? One direct guess.
They are often lured by false promises of jobs and any other deception which gets them under mafia control. And much of this is very, very slick.
And to offer comments such as the “trade” elevates their lifestyle and gives them a bunch more money is so naive I could almost give the Shirley Temple award for it. This was offered by simon.
There will always be social failures of men who don’t know how to inspire desire.
But prostitution, sex tours and sex slaves is not a part of the traditional values credo or system of beliefs.
September 14, 2007 at 1:17 am
Ceiver lies all the time and contorts what I say, as do you.
How about this Exlax. How about you prove to me that Ceiver is not a liar.
How about you put your money where your mouth is for once, and show me one place, even ONE PLACE, where I attacked GL, as he claimed.
And if you can genuinely do that, I’ll stand corrected.
September 14, 2007 at 1:29 am
And also so you know I responded to your comment #13 on my blog. I put it on my blog because it wouldn’t go through the filter here.
Almost everything you said in that comment is either unjustified or inaccurate, and I called you out on it.
September 14, 2007 at 1:39 am
Liars? No delusional one. No. You prove to me. Boy.
Captain! I’m going in! …
Then you proceed to create this whole bizaare battle fantasy thing. Totally whacked.
You assume that you’re important enough to my life to warrant my taking the time to visit where I promised I would never again visit in order to sift through the bile to find it.
I stand by my statements. There’s a difference between disavowing someone and outright attacking them.
Me you’ve clearly attacked. GL you simply disavowed insofar as stating the we[he and I] don’t match your [current] personal life perspectives.
But again you mistake me as someone who gives a damn about you. I could care less.
My family is everything to me. You? Nothing.
September 14, 2007 at 2:11 am
I already told you, I don’t care about you.
I care about my family.
I can read. And I know what I read or this entire hookers debate wouldn’t have happened. A friend of mine, more curious about what you say than me, PM’d me about your hooker life in Asia plans.
Rexpat… as in I got the girl and that’s why I’m smiling.
And the countdown continues.
September 14, 2007 at 2:41 am
Written by someone much wiser than me, and I can’t agree more.
I won’t go on your site anymore Luke. It is filled with bile and confusing
philosophies. Sort of like flavour of the month.
And yes, I too know what I read when you wrote that people like myself and GL
are on one side, and your codisciples are on another. This was, of course, of
course, not too long after you spoke in the opposite camp about how much you
were grateful for those very same people.
You are mentally unstable. And it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it
out.
You bring nothing but negativity to any site. I gave you credit for much more
than your character warrants and regret having defended it.
Sex tours, prostitution, getting a job which can keep you in hookers when living
in the cheap tricks part of the world, sex dolls, Russian women are too hard to
please? And after all this you show up here in the house that profound respect
and admiration built and pretend to have a character which “fits in” while
playing off my good character against that of GL?
And again, Ceiver is absolutely correct. Yes, it is shameful to use sex slavery
workers. So when “simon says” claims to not have a problem when other boys are
using girls this way, then he simply doesn’t have the character to denounce it.
And yes, that is to blame. And deserves every bit of it.
So, when you cry out this nonsense defence of blame and shame; then, you both
should not be surprised. You deserve every bit of it.
We are not the only ones who see you this way. Not according to some of the
other comments. So playing this targeting routine is a commentary on selective
memory.
Prostitution, sex tours, sex slavery, sex dolls are all pathetic evidence of
socially inept boys who most often can’t inspire true desire in a Real girl who
gives it freely and passionately. And there ain’t no amount of money which can
buy it.
And yes, I have a huge problem with all men whose solution to not knowing what
must be learned is any of the above.
It speaks of a pathetic, failed life.
And as far as childish video routines are concerned… I don’t really care.
Garbage author, garbage comments.
September 14, 2007 at 2:54 am
You see that’s just the thing.
Whenever I tell you to back up your claims, you just wuss out with a lame excuse.
I called out Ceiver when he lied about me attacking GL.
You said Ceiver never lies. I’m saying that he most certainly does, and that he lied about me attacking GL.
I told you to back up your claim, and you can’t do that.
All you can do is throw around mud and then bury your head in the sand when somebody challenges you on it.
Hardly a “Real man” if you ask me.
September 14, 2007 at 4:21 pm
Can’t we all just get along?
September 14, 2007 at 5:19 pm
We can, and we will.
September 15, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Hey RW;
From one whose been there and back, without the sites we’d never really know or understand how they existed or where. It’s as good an information toll as the catalogues were back in the 1800’s. One just needs to keep things in perspective.
September 17, 2007 at 10:49 am
Attention Debate Team Parties.. Keep in mind you guys are all on the same side in the bigger picture of things. So please chill out or settle this the old fashion way with dueling pistols at sunset.
September 17, 2007 at 10:59 am
Hi Canajun,
I agree with you.. I guess the point I wanted to make with this post is that yes there are many sites with women on them.. and sure there are many pretty pictures and interesting profiles to look at and I certainly cannot fault anyone for browsing through them or even participating with them given the time, resources and travel constraints that we all have.
However..
Is this the “best” way to move forward with a real traditional romance?
For some I’m sure the answer is yes.
But in my mind there is just nothing that can ever top the true experience of being there and meeting up with a beautiful woman by chance from the start.
I think that Men who have never really experienced this in a positive way are really missing out on a whole lot of what life is all about..
Romance and mystery..
Is she looking at me?
Is she attracted to me?
Would she like me?
Is she the one?
This is all timeless stuff that we call “Chemistry”..
And I for one believe that Men should do what they can to aspire for this magnificent experience in the most natural setting possible.
That’s why living out here is truly the optimal way to go for those who have the ability to do it… or to even shoot for it.
Cheers.. GL
September 17, 2007 at 1:51 pm
rw_man said:
“Attention Debate Team Parties.. Keep in mind you guys are all on the same side in the bigger picture of things. So please chill out [...]“
GL, you’d do well in politics
Having said that I agree. Perspective.
September 17, 2007 at 3:51 pm
Dead Russian girls, sex slaves, sex tours and utter disrespect are not traditional values and not to be trifled away with a few lighthearted quips.
And those who either espouse to it or remain silent in the wake of it, yes, they make great politicians.
September 17, 2007 at 4:32 pm
well, I am not a liar, therefore I am not a politician. I am not a politician, therefore I am not a liar. I have certain principles and values well known and respected. Woman respect me because I don’t play games. I don’t play poker, so I don’t bluff. Thank you Rexpat for your support.
The “debate” is over as I have been banned from it. The dual is not over. High noon. (I have a more important concert with a lady at sunset…I bought the tickets, she is making the dinner).
I will not continue this irritation here as this is all off topic so my apology to you GL in that regard.
September 17, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Rexpat,
I think the broader point here is that this topic should continue (if it all) on the blog where it originated, and not sully this fine website of GL’s.
September 17, 2007 at 5:24 pm
And just to be clear… my personal views on the topic under discussion agree with those put forward by Ceiver, Rexpat, et. al. … as evidenced by my comments on the relevant threads on Luke’s blog …
September 17, 2007 at 7:31 pm
“The “debate” is over as I have been banned from it.”
You were banned because you repeatedly threatened to sue me for something that I did not do.
And also because you said “I want to invite our friends here and make it the most popular on campus.”
Frankly, that sounds like a threat. I don’t know who your ‘friends’ are, but by your tone it sounds like they’re up to no good and thus I don’t want them coming anywhere near me or anyone else on this campus.
“The dual is not over.”
I’m going to make sure you lose that duel, you traitor.
September 17, 2007 at 7:41 pm
And that goes for the rest of you too. I’d advise all of you who have a problem with me to drop whatever “duels” you have with me.
You’re not going to win. No-one will win.
September 17, 2007 at 9:09 pm
Well, Luke, you won’t win either.
GL. Pistols?? At high noon is preferable. Hmmm……..
September 17, 2007 at 10:40 pm
“Open Range” …one of the best “duals” ever on the screen. Boss Spearman (loyal,honor, real man), Charley Waite (leader, honor, real man). Shot in the great country of Canada. lots to be learned to take to your Russian lady.
September 17, 2007 at 10:40 pm
oh, sorry…off topic.
September 17, 2007 at 10:42 pm
Hey guys. Not to break with this heated debate, but what kind of salary could you have in Russia/Siberia and live modestly with, have family, enjoy life? I don’t care about Moscow or St. Pete’s or the big cities. I know “average salaries” are misleading, but you understand what I mean. Thank you in advance.
September 17, 2007 at 10:43 pm
Factual errors: When Boss shoots the bad guy through the wall with the shotgun he flies at least five feet into the other building. The impact of any bullet or shotgun pellets is equivalent to the recoil so unless Boss flew just as far in the opposite direction that wouldn’t happen.
ya…but it was cool.
September 17, 2007 at 10:51 pm
This is getting quite ugly.
I suggest we all just drop it now (guilty as I have been…)
September 17, 2007 at 10:53 pm
Has anyone else had this problem where AFTER you post a comment you find like 5 other earlier comments you haven’t seen before?
September 17, 2007 at 11:15 pm
Socon,
I believe WordPress.com has servers at two locations and they sync at odd times.
September 18, 2007 at 12:26 am
Often a good man will thank his enemies. They reinforces his inherent good and show to him this great significance within himself.
Doing what is truly right is not always so popular; or so evident. But it does not distract the soul or tear it down, or invite the whip of karma in a destructive way.
When Russian girls are no longer murdered after being kidnapped, multiple raped in order to break their spirit and resistance to that most precious of honours, their private and priceless genuinely offered sexuality; then I will rest on this topic.
I have seen and continue to see how easily and with such trifling how these divine creatures suffering and continued suffering is belittled by some men who are either insenitive to anything outside of themselves or who have not adequate social skills or a loopsided idea of their social match.
I correct you GL. I am not and never will be on the same side as the ones who advocate prostitution, sex tours, sex slaves and any other kind of garbage of human ethics.
I lost my “innocent” sister to this crap. I saw her suffer this torment of gang rape for more than 15 years before she got enough strength to get on with her life. I sat there with her weeping uncontrollably in a coffee shop as she confided in me what she would not tell anyone else.
It broke my heart.
So, if any of these clowns think that involuntary sexuality under penalty of death is a simple trifling to simply “get over it” with; then pray it never happens to anyone you love.
Time for me to write my prostitution post on my own blog, where dirt bags are nowhere to be found.
September 18, 2007 at 12:48 am
About the Osama screwing the FreeMason pond scum GeorgeDubya… toostupidtobepresident.com or whatever…
Georgie boy has and continued to evode and install every conceiveable political and subtle and not-so-subtle political manueuvering to undermine the better interests of Russia and the Russian people.
And the cartoon is an expression of extreme contempt for his extreme contempt of Russia and Russians.
It is further held by me and many others in the world; that in fact Georgie and Osamieboy are in fact collusionists on this murder of the Americans in question. Do your research. And this question of collusion has in fact been broadcast to the Russian people as a part of the understanding of why what America is doing is happening at all.
Thus the two “bedmates” cartoon.
But thank you anyway for taking me off all possible links.
September 18, 2007 at 1:23 am
Flaunt my relationship? Yes, of course I do. Why? Because it shows to any smart enough to observe this flaunting why my detractors are so incredibly miserable and why and how it continues to happen in their lives.
It makes obvious both our differences and our general differing levels of happiness.
And as far as an arrogant innuendo… I constantly and obvious offer my own example as an incitement to others to find their own “little slice of heaven”.
The simple fact is if they had what I had they wouldn’t hold the philosophies or the frustration that they do.
About the sex doll thing. Yes, I too have a huge problem with it. More out of dismay, bewilderment and disappointment. How in God’s name can anyone think that doing it with a pathetic piece of plastic barely discernable as human qualifies as a sexual experience? Do I advocate the sex police? No. But I do advocate that these things that do it should seek some serious therapy and a much more heavy dose of reality.
And as far as my attachment to Russia and any attachment to an implied expertise is concerned… Yes, of course, my knowledge is very credible. I have been tutored by a true Russian patriot for years now.
I daily discuss political news with her. She constantly sends me links and articles. Like for example, how Georgie tries to incite aversions of Russia’s satellite countries and how it is now failing badly. How he tries to undermine the surging Russian oil and gas economy by using intimidation and corruption to construct a pipeline from a certain country to Russia’s customer line.
Russia 20% in house use, 80% of production sold //yrly oil and gas
America 20% in house produced, 80% bought from somewhere else.
The U.S. dollar is falling badly. The Euro and the ruble continue to outperform it.
And all this translates to a now huge economic transfer of power.
Just one part of many of my apprenticeship from a true Russian expert on politics and life in Russia.
I speak to her daily for no less than an hour and a half. Most times this is 3-4 hours. Many of those times it has been 6-8 hours. True love. True missing. True hunger.
So while most Westerners watch television I speak to my girl. I haven’t watched local television for years.
Hit your mother? Why am I not surprised?
Oh right… The helping me to be a better man thing. Do you see a gun to my head? I like becoming a better and better man. I really like it. If for example, she teaches me Asian or even general etiquette and I soon have a meeting with an Asian company discussing a contract with me/us, as she’s my agent; then, sorry pal, but I’m all ears and any success that this improving brings to me, makes me a more happy and secure man.
What? A man has never been helped by his sisters or mother in how not to look like a totally inept dresser?
And if you knew a girl’s test when you saw it then you’d know that it happens as a consequence of their simply being a girl. It’s how they’re wired. And any man who’s been around knows this as fact.
And the countdown continues.
September 18, 2007 at 2:07 am
“Well, Luke, you won’t win either.
GL. Pistols?? At high noon is preferable. Hmmm……..”
Wolverine, that’s not what I meant.
What I meant is to inform them that none of them are going to benefit from the various squabbles and petty vendettas that they have against me, even though some of them incorrectly think that they might.
It would be best for all of them if they followed GL’s advice and piped down at this point, because they’re not getting themselves anywhere.
September 18, 2007 at 2:31 am
And with that, we shall now proceed back to the original topic. (Whether my bashers like it or not.)
The original topic was how online dating was not in accordance with the traditional style of romance in Siberia.
I am an MRA, thus above all, I want to help my brothers in the MRM to fight feminism. And one thing that often helps men in the MRM to fight feminism is when they see what GL calls: “The mystery and awe of a chance encounter along with that first initial glance into the piercing eyes of a beautiful maiden.”
This is because the feminist state has crushed all of this in the West, so when those MRA’s go overseas to see the beautiful maidens, it really does inspire them.
Now in practice, the exact maidens that those MRA’s see are often not Siberian maidens but Philippine maidens. This is because in practice, there is a high level MRA who lives in the Philippines that often takes MRA’s from Australia over to the Philippines. His alias is Yan Yan, and he is still active today, although he does not take as many MRA’s over as he used to unfortunately.
September 18, 2007 at 5:40 am
Deja vu…”A Beautiful Mind”
sad
September 18, 2007 at 1:07 pm
All anyone has to know is that all that really matters in life is family, the reciprocal love of family, the reciprocal love of one’s girl, a normal social environment both currently and the longterm.
And from within that context, all other issues arise.
I have only days to prepare to see to the healing of a critically ill family member before I go. I spent a handful of years learning how to do it and have certainly done it before and helped others back to their lives.
There is too much to teach to guide at a distance when it is this critical. There is not so much time. I must be physically present. It is all a very fluid, almost instinctual process.
There is even some question of survival even before my arrival. It is not a happy time from this point of view. There is serious stress as there is profound love and therefore suffering in seeing the suffering of a family member.
I am doing everything humanly possible to make my arrival as speedy as possible and to make this healing effective and sure. It is now my job.
So, I have no more time to debate this debate with those who, from my point of view, are less than worthless to what should be most important to any man…his family, and certainly mine.
Within hours of my arrival, it begins. The honeymoon will simply have to wait. This is love. This is family.
When I thought that I had spent too many of my years learning what I did to the exclusion of the development of my career; I had no idea that one day, my love, my great love’s most dear family member would be in such critical need of what my research and study has taught me.
God brings together people in the most complex of designs. All throughout these years I have followed my heart. The same for my girl. Without both of our special areas of expertise, the imminent death of our family member would be a certainty.
I could not be there so quickly without her. And the healing cannot happen without me.
To see how hard my girl fights this fight is truly inspiring. It would have been so easy to already have quit. She shows me how she loves. And it is extraordinary. In Russia family seems so much more important.
When all goes well, we will see for ourselves that love has a purpose greater than ourselves. And that this purpose must be found with faith.
And faith costs courage. Courage that the path in one’s life is not for naught.
Today, I have everything I ever wanted in a girl. I had to wait a long, long time to find her. But she is mine as much as the air in my lungs. All a part of God’s design of my life.
For those of you who doubt; yes, this is normal to wonder if true and enduring happiness can happen to you. You must have faith and courage. And most especially follow your heart.
And whether on the net, or in person with regard to introductions or any other part of the development of your relationship, there is always a reason more profound than you may see for how it happens to you.
Simply continue undaunted and stubbornly certain that you will get to where you must go.
Teacher to student and a karmic debt… my presence on blogs. Some have a stink which is now intolerable. So I keep my own house free of it.
To those who are becoming my friends, and you know who you are, I ask for your patience and thank you again for taking the actual time to show that you care enough to wish me well. I will help as I can when this crisis is past.
You are welcome to catch any updates on my blog when that time comes, or to PM me. No promises though when I can respond. Heck, in time you’ll have my landline. My time is now not my own, although in an odd kind of way, it very much is.
Your girl is waiting for you to find her. Use whatever you have to to make it happen.
But you already know that, or you wouldn’t be the kind of man who would be my friend.
All the best to you in your “Real man’s pursuit”. The only personal life “movement” which matters a darn to your life.
The countdown, now in days, continues…
September 18, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Dear “real men”, I have been following your discussion with much attention. I can only say: it is incredible how much you are into that subject (Russian girls) and how much you are eager to fight for it!! - I guess this makes you definetly very attractive in the eyes of Russian girls… For we are used to boys fighting each other for our attention since kindergarden :))
but I mean it seriously!! You are really great, and the way you appreciate the true womanhood is amazing…
Much love from a true Russian girl
September 18, 2007 at 5:19 pm
Well you made my day Axinia..
Thanks for your gracious validation of our often un-gracious mudslinging
At least we all mean well right??
September 18, 2007 at 8:54 pm
You see, this is why maybe I’m not so mad that I ended up going to Poland instead of Russia.
Because in Poland they seemed to recognize that giving women too much attention and fighting over them was a bad thing.
Maybe in Russia things are different, but I saw Russians too while I was there, and it didn’t seem to be all that different.
But I actually don’t think that this is a problem that involves Russia per se. I think that this is a problem that involves certain individuals from the West that have the need to constantly fill their egos with hot air who go over to Russia and are intent on using Russian girls as another mechanism to inflate their own egos.
And in the process of doing this, these individuals spread misinformation about Russia and Russian girls, and disrespect other men.
Anixia, my own personal advice would be not to pay attention to certain people on here when they use the term “real men”. This is because they never defined the term in the first place, and they seem to change its usage whenever it suits their fancy.
All in all, I would hope that the men who come over to Russia for the girls would have the attitude that is advised to them by the MRM, and the attitude that is reinforced in society in Poland. This is to realize that the girls are very beautiful and very attractive, but never to get totally carried away with this.
September 18, 2007 at 11:13 pm
LS: “I think that this is a problem that involves certain individuals from the West that have the need to constantly fill their egos with hot air who go over to Russia and are intent on using Russian girls as another mechanism to inflate their own egos”
LS: “And if what GL says is true: that Russian women always think that they should be “treated like a princess”, then the best thing to do with Russian women would be to just ^^ck and chuck them.”
September 18, 2007 at 11:20 pm
“I’m going to make sure you lose that duel, you traitor.”
“And that goes for the rest of you too. I’d advise all of you who have a problem with me to drop whatever “duels” you have with me.
You’re not going to win. No-one will win.”
“Well, Luke, you won’t win either.
GL. Pistols?? At high noon is preferable. Hmmm……..”
Wolverine, that’s not what I meant.”
All comments by you Luke. Are you backing down now from all your big talk of fighting?? Or was it another “figure of speech” that only you are entitled to.
“Because in Poland they seemed to recognize that giving women too much attention and fighting over them was a bad thing.”
Another comment by you, Luke. There is a difference between fighting over for attention, and fighting for the rights of another. Again, something you seem not to understand.
“And in the process of doing this, these individuals spread misinformation about Russia and Russian girls, and disrespect other men.”
An amusing statement considering that it was you that started the disrespect by being the first to call names.
There will be no link, just look for a post on his blog if you must look.
Interesting that you write posts about what others are saying about you here and complaining. You told me to do that math, and that’s what I did. And when it came back not so favorable to your ideas, you response was that of someone that lies continually. “Oh, but I didn’t mean it that way!!! Stop misunderstanding me!!!!” I didn’t misunderstand. What you said was there in black and white.
Now, why don’t you run along to your little blog and cry to them about how the big bad wolverine is so mean an stupid, and how all these words came out of his a$$…..
BTW, I WILL NOT make an effort to get along with someone that says he admires traditional feminine women, and then says that we must use them as prostitutes because they’re women.
September 18, 2007 at 11:49 pm
GL, I am old fashion also, so i hope this is in topic.
Another scene from ‘Open Range’
Mack: Shame what this town’s come to.
Charley Waite: You could do something about it.
Mack: What? We’re freighters. Ralph here’s a shopkeeper.
Charley Waite: You’re men, ain’t you?
Mack: I didn’t raise my boys just to see ‘em killed.
Charley Waite: Well you may not know this, but there’s things that gnaw at a man worse than dying.
It’s all about principle and values.
high noon…haynes hall
September 19, 2007 at 3:36 am
“All comments by you Luke. Are you backing down now from all your big talk of fighting?? Or was it another “figure of speech” that only you are entitled to.”
No it wasn’t a figure of speech that “only I am entitled to”. Ceiver was actually the first one to use that figure of speech in relation to me.
Check Comment # 35 from Ceiver: “The “debate” is over as I have been banned from it. The dual is not over.”
This refutes your claim that it is a figure of speech that only I am entitled to.
“An amusing statement considering that it was you that started the disrespect by being the first to call names.”
Actually to be fair, it was Masculist Man who first started calling names. I’ll be fair and say that yes it was someone on my side who started the name calling. But it was not me personally. But the first one to actually start with the name calling of someone from here against someone else from here was actually you guys on me. Check the post and see for yourselves: link.
September 19, 2007 at 3:49 am
“LS: “And if what GL says is true: that Russian women always think that they should be “treated like a princess”, then the best thing to do with Russian women would be to just ^^ck and chuck them.””
Yes I did say that Ceiver. And guess what, I still stand by it. But you know what else, that was a conditional statement, and in this case now that I’ve analyzed the situation more, I really don’t think the hypothesis of the conditional is fulfilled, at least not in Poland.
Because in Poland, Polish men did NOT give Polish women special treatment. They did NOT treat Polish women like “princesses”. In fact, they often did the opposite. I saw many, many instances in which Polish men actually teased and made fun of beautiful Polish women in order to cut them down to size.
And men who did things to treat their girlfriends or wives as “princesses” were literally viewed as “bad examples” by other Polish men. I’m not kidding. In fact, I’m going to write a post about this later.
Treating women like “princesses” is something that occurs in the United States, and we all see the result of it.
American women have been treated like “princesses” for a long time, and as a result, guess what: now they are only good for ****ing and chucking.
Any woman who is “treated like a princess” is going to become a spoiled brat.
I realize that.
Polish men realize that.
You guys obviously don’t realize that.
September 19, 2007 at 3:59 am
[from Ceiver's comment:]
“LS: “I think that this is a problem that involves certain individuals from the West that have the need to constantly fill their egos with hot air who go over to Russia and are intent on using Russian girls as another mechanism to inflate their own egos””
I stand by that statement as it is written.
September 19, 2007 at 4:02 am
[from Ceiver's comment:]
“LS: “I think that this is a problem that involves certain individuals from the West that have the need to constantly fill their egos with hot air who go over to Russia and are intent on using Russian girls as another mechanism to inflate their own egos””
I stand by that statement also.
It does not require any further explanation at this point.
September 19, 2007 at 4:12 am
What exactly didn’t you misunderstand? What was there in black and white? Explain please.
Well then it’s no wonder you’re not a member of any of our MRA forums, as in that case you wouldn’t be able to walk two steps without running into somebody that you “WILL NOT make an effort to get along with”.
September 19, 2007 at 2:19 pm
I can visualise another Virginia Tech coming…. this time in Michigan….
September 19, 2007 at 3:04 pm
Ceiver,
Thanks for clarifying that
–
Rexpat, you said:
“So, if any of these clowns think that involuntary sexuality under penalty of death is a simple trifling to simply “get over it” with; then pray it never happens to anyone you love.”
This has not been the position taken by “any clowns” here (other than Luke & people from his blog). The broader point, as I stated earlier, is that this discussion has gone so far gone from the basic premises of this fine website of GL’s as to be completely inappropriate. Let us be mindful of our host’s hospitality.
–
Luke, you said:
“And if what GL says is true: that Russian women always think that they should be “treated like a princess”, then the best thing to do with Russian women would be to just ^^ck and chuck them.”
Think of a better way to create more jaded, bitter, angry women? There’s two sides to every coin, Luke. This kind of behaviour feeds into women’s deterioration of character as much as spoiling them does. The key is to find a suitable candidate to begin with, and then act with maturity, balance, and moderation.
And on the topic of insults, the tone of all of our initial comments on your prostitution thread were rational and reconciliatory. The general assumption at the time was that you had been upset due to some bad experience in Poland, and were reacting to that. Our intentions were considerate and reconcilatory. For our efforts, we were insulted by your friends “masculist man” and simon, accused of “dogma”, called “women and manginas”, “naive and innocent”, “f—ing pricks”, depicted as transvestites. The majority of our arguments, which were derived from REASON and MORALS/VALUES were ignored or written off as “blame and shame”.
I, for one, will not go through life without my values and integrity. And trust me, those values are the product of much experience, observation, analysis, and REASON on my part. And I will continue to judge, and yes, blame and shame on the basis of these, and I hope to GOD that I will never cease doing so.
Writing off any moral or rational argument as “Blame and shame” are the words of the liberals and communists whom you claim to despise. More proof that you and your new allies are intellectually, morally, and ideologically BANKRUPT. Luke, like I said before, figure out who you are and what you want from life, or else your’e gonna have a pretty tough time navigating through this existence. “Flavour of the month” is really not the way to go.
September 19, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Oh, so now that you all have no rational arguments, you’re now making baseless comparisons between me and the Virginia Tech shooter, even though I have never done anything illegal in my life worse than speeding in a car.
It’s nothing but yet another attempt by you guys to take a low blow at me.
September 19, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Leave the poor immature boy alone. It is obvious to me, he suffers from mental problems.
September 19, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Suffers?? Seems like he enjoys every minute of it.
Anyways, Luke, the shooting comment was more likely directed at me.
BTW, no parking violations or red light tickets???
September 20, 2007 at 2:07 am
I responded to Surfer’s comment, but unfortunately my response ended up in the spam box.
It’s sad, because Surfer was usually very reasonable, and I quite liked him.
But now Surfer has unfortunately abandoned that reasonability and has hopped aboard the Luke-bash train with the rest of you guys.
As for you Wolverine, no I have never gotten any parking violations or gotten any red light tickets.
September 20, 2007 at 1:22 pm
I have been following this website for some time, perusing the comments and casually forming my own opinions about the commentators, without feeling a need to express any opinions of my own. I must preface of course to say that I am an American girl and wife who readily sees the truth of the general demise of American femininity, albeit with much sadness, the same way I feel when I see anything beautiful dying. I think all here agree that feminity is a beautiful thing in any country, as masculinity is a glorious thing in any country. I think also that all here would agree that no one should be treated like trash - that the purpose of this blog is definitely not to endorse treating people as trash.
To get back to my main point, as I read comments and formed opinions about commentators, it was readily apparent to me that one Luke Skywalker has a history of unstable and self-contradictory comments. I do not write to condemn him. I write to ask that others simply treat his comments as they are - the rambling of a very confused and likely unstable person. No one in their right mind takes the time to reason with a crazy person. I sincerely hope that Luke Skywalker will get professional care. We should not encourage his ravings by answering him, especially such horrible comments of his that recommend “****ing and chucking” human beings.
Is this blog not ultimately about true love? Why is insane hate tolerated?
And as for the ACTUAL POST on which these comments should be based, I completely agree that love begins from that fluttering and pounding in the heart, the involuntary physical reactions like sweaty palms and blushing cheeks, that come from the first locked glance with your soon beloved. It is impossible to feel that drawing and all-answering love dragging you along whether you will or will not simply from choosing faces and personalities like products in a catalog.
September 20, 2007 at 2:46 pm
“Anyways, Luke, the shooting comment was more likely directed at me.”
Wolverine: It was directed at Luke. I have read your comments on this blog and it is evident that you are a Man of integrity, I have no quarrel with you.
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My previous (long) comment also seems to have gotten stuck in the spam box…
btw: Ceiver: thanks for clarifying that.
September 20, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Oh and Luke, that comment wasn’t so much a “low blow” as it was a statement of genuine concern.
You are close to snapping, and most everyone here can see that.
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Gurdow Says:
September 17, 2007 at 10:42 pm
“Hey guys. Not to break with this heated debate, but what kind of salary could you have in Russia/Siberia and live modestly with, have family, enjoy life? I don’t care about Moscow or St. Pete’s or the big cities. I know “average salaries” are misleading, but you understand what I mean. Thank you in advance.”
I’d be interested in an answer to that one as well. Ditto for SE Asia[whoring-allowance not required]
Specifically, would it be viable for someone early in their career [Masters Degree + 2-3 years relevant work experience.]
September 20, 2007 at 5:37 pm
Doamna;
I believe your observations are responsible and reasonable. I appreciate your comments.
I would like to state for the record, I do not have ill feelings towards Luke, I absolutely do not “hate” him as he described elsewhere. It is not my intention to humiliate him.
I do believe he is very smart as he described elsewhere, he is taking courses that are way above average for most guys his age. He is on MIT/Cornell level, I have worked with both. I do not believe he is unstable. (he looks normal). I do believe he is in conflict. The guy plays violin one day, power metal the next day. One is soft, the other is hard. I like both types of music, but they do show rather opposite sides of emotion.
I am not sure life/love are about logic. They are chaos, yet LS is a logical type of guy. Accepting chaos requires a little vulnerablity.
This blog is the equivalent of the violin. The other blogs I’ve seen are the power metal, and one I put on gutter level. Is there something in between. I believe its about balance…having a moral code, having confidence, having values, respecing others.
The guys here maybe a little harsh on LS, but I do not believe any of them mean to bash him, but to stick up for tradional values.
I could continue but I have to go to work.
September 20, 2007 at 5:39 pm
Axinia,
I do wish the guys will click on your name and see your photography. Serenity!
September 20, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Hi Doamna,
Thank you for accurately re-emphasizing one of the key points as to what this blog is all about..
It’s as much of a celebration of true beauty and femininity as it is a warning to women to not lose it..
Please indulge us with more of your insights and thoughts for they are insightful to read.
Cheers,
GL
September 21, 2007 at 4:34 pm
GL,
Thank you for your kind welcome.
September 21, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Hi Doamna,
Let me just echo rw_man’s and Ceiver’s sentiments.
Please keep on commenting
September 22, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Ok, on topic with GL’s old fashion courting of an attractive woman that catches your eye, I believe these items of character sum up the “laundry list”. Real women are looking for real men. Real men are looking for real women.
Money and looks are not on this list. Forget the plastic.
(i borrowed this only to save time)
Trustworthiness
Be honest • Don’t deceive, cheat or steal • Be reliable — do what you say you’ll do • Have the courage to do the right thing • Build a good reputation • Be loyal — stand by your family, friends and country
Respect
Treat others with respect; follow the Golden Rule • Be tolerant of differences • Use good manners, not bad language • Be considerate of the feelings of others • Don’t threaten, hit or hurt anyone • Deal peacefully with anger, insults and disagreements
Responsibility
Do what you are supposed to do • Persevere: keep on trying! • Always do your best • Use self-control • Be self-disciplined • Think before you act — consider the consequences • Be accountable for your choices
Fairness
Play by the rules • Take turns and share • Be open-minded; listen to others • Don’t take advantage of others • Don’t blame others carelessly
Caring
Be kind • Be compassionate and show you care • Express gratitude • Forgive others • Help people in need
Citizenship
Do your share to make your school and community better • Cooperate • Get involved in community affairs • Stay informed; vote • Be a good neighbor • Obey laws and rules • Respect authority • Protect the environment
Any of you guys have a problem with this? You will always get “tested” on this, both from woman and men.
in the words of Toby Keith…”Ain’t no right way to do the wrong thing”.
One of my personal philosphies … “Life is a bowl of cherries, sometimes you will find yourself in the pits. Take a pit and grow a new cherry tree”. That is what GL is doing. Courtship takes time.
“And if what GL says is true: that Russian women always think that they should be “treated like a princess”,
I think everyone wants to be special in the eyes of at least one other person. Doesn’t mean being put on a pedistal, quite the contrary, just means a good pair of warm gloves.
high noon …haynes hall
September 22, 2007 at 9:55 pm
Ceiver: You are indeed a wise man…
Money and looks are not on this list. Forget the plastic.
Money is a touchy issue… can’t ENTIRELY discount it…
Hatching a post about money for my up-and-coming blog. (Shameless advertising, I know…)
September 22, 2007 at 9:57 pm
What now… ?
September 22, 2007 at 9:59 pm
Apologies if duplicate…
Ceiver… indeed you are a wise man.
Money and looks are not on this list. Forget the plastic.
Money is a touchy issue… can’t ENTIRELY discount it, as much as one would want to…
Hatching a post for my up-and-coming blog… (Shameless Adevrtising, I know…)
September 22, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Okay… I’m trying to figure out exactly what dirty word I said in my last post for it to get stuck in spam…
September 22, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Anyway Ceiver I said you are WISE… and some other stuff that the spam filter doesn’t seem to like.
September 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm
LOL, this is what they tried to teach me to do as a kid, and when I got older I learned real fast that in the real world all this gets you is walked all over like a doormat.
September 22, 2007 at 10:25 pm
“what they tried to teach me to do as a kid”
You didn’t learn!
September 22, 2007 at 10:49 pm
Luke does have a point.
Contemporary society has reached a stage of unprecedented social and moral chaos and malaise.
It’s difficult.
September 22, 2007 at 11:06 pm
Socon, LS,
I’ll agree to a point.
Choice. Consequences.
but I still believe real women are looking for real men of real character. Here and in Siberia and even in Poland.
September 22, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Ceiver,
Agreed.
There’s always a choice.
September 23, 2007 at 11:16 am
“In short, the reason why feminism has been kept out of Poland is not because Polish women decided not to have the attitude of entitlement, but because Polish men have refused to let them have that attitude.”
This is the choice, in Portugal we do the same.
September 23, 2007 at 12:56 pm
Luke,
Don’t make the mistake of rejecting these important values because of the difficulties you have in seeing them around you.
I’d suggest you go watch the movie “Rob Roy” and understand what his definition of honor is in spite of the darkness of the world he lived in.
We are Men and this is the challenge that we all face. Your maturity will depend on your ability to navigate through the clouds of gray in what you possibly think right now is a black and white world.
When you finish with Rob Roy I’d then suggest that you watch the 1986 Franco Zeffirelli film version of Otello.
Watch the actions of a man named Iago and the justifications he uses for them. Hopefully you will understand that we all walk a thin line and act and speak accordingly Luke.
GL
September 24, 2007 at 5:16 pm