Well my friend Snejana is on a roll as far as her friends are concerned.
Meet Jenya..
Jenya is a construction engineering student who is originally from the wind swept stepps of Central Kazakhstan.
She has a natural love of symmetry, balance and architectural perfection as clearly expressed by the lovely image that she likes to project onto the world.
(Not to mention a sex appeal that could melt re-bar and steal frames on contact)
This 20 year old Russian Girl may be a lady of few words but she has an intellect filled with fluid intelligence and aspiring thoughts.
She says that her biggest aspiration is to be able to study mathematics and engineering in the US someday.
In return I told her that there were a whole bunch of fellow engineering students in the US who would dream of studying subjects like “Construction Calculus” with her too.
Jenya is also one determined lady..
She attends a tough mix of engineering classes 6 days a weeks, takes additional evening classes to study English and somehow also manages to hold down a job as a wine and spirits representative.
One can only imagine what the future holds for a girl with such a standout mix of brains, determination and of course visceral beauty.
I believe that Jenya will soon be ready for the world..
But the real question that we should ask is..
Will the world be ready for her?
Best of Friends - Snejana & Jenya
September 12, 2008 at 11:57 am
Wow Rw_man,
Its obvious to me, after seeing Jenya and her friend that God has certainly taklen all the beautiful Angels, plucked their wings and put them in Russia (so thats where they’ve all been 😉 ;).
Truly the most adorable, loving and intelligent Ladies to grace us. I feel spoiled dropping in on your site from time to time and seeing these Ladies and how they take the time to even be seen…thanks very much Jenya and Snejana for coming to this site…i really must come and visit and bring some Aussie humor with me 😉 (and my guitar of course)
Thanks for the site Rw_Man,
luv…Robbie
September 12, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Hi Robbie,
When you talk about angels on earth.. I can certainly understand where you are coming from.. especially since I’ve been on both sides of the equation. Hopefully you can make your own migration to the other side of the formula as well to gain some valuable perspective too. Say hello to all of your aussie mates by the way.. I love your country and hope to visit it again someday..
GL
September 12, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Gl,
Jenna is one of the sexiest girls i’ve seen in AEC. I’ve seen a lot of American women try and fail that I have an enormous amount of respect for any woman who can succeed in what is (at least in my experience) a man’s world. Good luck.
P
September 13, 2008 at 1:29 am
Holly smokes, you’re right about your friend Snejana being on a roll…:-) It’s clear from Jenya’s pictures she has both beauty and intelligence in great abundance, but it hasn’t gone to her head. Snejana as always is a angel in human form in the last photo like her friend. Their smiles made my day because they’re genuine, and that is one thing that makes women beautiful. They no doubt know how disarming they can be, how can anyone not be affected by a beautiful young lady inside and our smiling at them? Please tell them RW_Man that their pictures made my day.
Taras
September 13, 2008 at 1:55 am
Yummy.
September 13, 2008 at 10:41 am
Hey, she’s my age and major (civil engineering). She has good taste in life.
September 14, 2008 at 12:17 am
It still amazes me the number of beautiful women that I saw during my stay in Siberia. I saw beautiful in what most Russians would consider normal in terms of looks. There are a lot of girls that fall into this category. They are seen as normal looking girls in their own cities but to one of us they would be beautiful. 🙂
I now believe it when RW_Man says he has just found girls that look like this around town, just walking about or hanging around. The truth is that you head to colleges and malls there are lots and lots of girls that are of this caliber. Head into any cafe or restaurant and it’s guaranteed tha there are a few beautiful waitresses in there. There would be many countless opportunities for any guy as soon as soon as he arrived to meet wonderful girls, so don’t think you need to already be in communication with a girl to decide to take a trip.
September 14, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Hello all,
I stumbled on this site and interestingly I met a russian young lady a few months ago in my own country. My inquiry by all means is in regards to my fear around this seemingly wonderful princess I met right here in New Zealand. She claims that she was on vacation and is now back in Russia. We have been in touch by email however I don’t know if I should trust her. She seems so slithering and cunning. She asked me to come over and visit her but gives me the impression she wants to live with me over here… Any advice?
Have any of you a Russian girlfriend or wife? I’d appreciate any advice on what steps I should take.
Greg
gregmanes4@yahoo.co.nz
September 14, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Why do all women feel they have to devote so much of their energy to getting a career?
Why do these women feel they need a career in the first place? What’s the point? What do women have to prove? Nothing! Just be women for christ’s sake.
Look let’s be honest here what good does an education do for women or men for that matter?
Nothing! Absolutely nothing!
I know I’m being blunt, and so be it!
Lets be honest about public education and feminism here also. Aren’t they planks of the communist manifesto? Why are so many people practicing the communist manifesto but promoting something different vis: feminine women. Why do these women feel they even need to be math majors and engineers and in the mens fields of work?
Is that feminine? Competing with men for the same job and potentially flooding the market with inexperienced women engineers?
This is just the tip of the problem as well.
There are so many other questions that need to be asked.
Please do not take offence to this as it is the truth! Thank you.
Your friend from the Northeast, C.
June 9, 2009 at 8:51 pm
I absolutely agree!
When I was a teeneger, I was told by everyone: “Study and make a career first! Then think of getting married” I thought that making career and having a good job is like blessing.
I wasted years and energy on studing hard in high school and then 5 more years in university.
When I got married, I realized that everything I learnt there does not help me to be happy as a woman! I realized that as a woman I knew nothing!!
I had to throw out all garbage from my head and to learn how to a woman!!
September 15, 2008 at 12:37 am
Gasp! Charming, perfectly feminine, warm expressions and always pleasant to look at. To the “Russian” ladies I would like to confirm what many frustrated “Western men” are saying, so that you will resist feminism and instead hold on to your most precious characteristics- pure femininity and loving, gentle warmth. I’ve seen so many young women (in the US) start out looking angelic and acting sweet, feminine and pleasant, but year-by-year they are deceptively convinced that motherhood, being openly feminine, and being truly appreciative of masculine men is distasteful or unnecessary to a great relationship. May I give an example?
I married a kind, feminine angel (American) of 19 years old, easily as wonderful as the Russian Angels RC posts. I was a very mature, traditional 21 year old. She slowly, over 13 years, became like the unfaithful, confrontational, tough women we see in the movies, TV, books, magazines, schools, universities and everywhere in the workplace. She was NOT a feminist, but she was influenced by them in every way. She was my best friend, my Queen, but she became exhausting to be around. This sweet woman, so I learned, longed for child-like “Storybook” pleasure: traveling, shopping, eating out, playing, chatting online, abundant sex, fun, fun, fun. I worked 14 hours a day and yet my wife felt trapped and cursed to be raising children in a nice lake home, in a nice area, with a big yard and a very involved father/husband. Steadily a feminist/Marxist ideology was being hammered into our lives. She became a very uncaring mother of three children, became resentful of “House-work”, yet quit every job within a month. As a God-assigned leader of my home I (appropriately) insisted that she find her priorities and take care of our children and help out. Well, she left 10 years ago and STILL ridicules my unchanging desire to have a “traditional” home and family. Ladies, this is epidemic in the US.
Forgive my harsh words about my ex. I still honor and respect her as my children’s mother, but I wanted to explain the reality of the dilemma many, many of us “Western” men face. Don’t let our feminist/Marxist cancer ruin you. I’m 44, and I still hope to marry a good, “Traditional” girl that I can make my Queen. You girls are a candle to the world. Please don’t let your light go out. We (Men) adore you.
Sorry RC, I got carried away!
September 15, 2008 at 2:54 am
C from the Northeast,
My opinion is that “Women in the workplace” do create many problems (For some men) that wouldn’t exist if they were not in the workplace. However, isn’t it obvious that women don’t have the luxury of waiting for the rare leader/husband with a large, predictably consistent income? If an ambitious young woman refuses to be a victim of crushing poverty and lack of opportunity by getting a “male” job, so be it. I imagine that she honors her family with the tremendous effort in getting educated. Will men have a harder time finding work? Yes! Sorry but women cannot fix the problem by staying home waiting for prince-wonderful. They know better, thank God. Hopefully they don’t become “Westernized” in the process. Many probably will, as I think you’d agree.
Is this part of the “Communist plan”, to educate women, get them in the workforce, tax families to death and destroy the family? Absolutely! Read “Quiet Weapons for Silent Wars”. David Rockefeller PAID for the “feminist movement” in America. I study this subject extensively. They want “workers” not families.
This is a challenge to those of us that see the effect of “Gender-Blurring” and “Role-Blending” and feminism. Women may have to work a job before they get married (Of course) and likely, at least for a while, after they marry a “Western man” simply because of the decline of the US dollar and off-shoring of millions of US jobs. It is a very serious matter that Russian ladies should investigate. Many men have the appearance of wealth, but have terrible debt.
However,there are MANY, men that can provide a wonderful, comfortable yet economically sustainable life of love, romance, fun, opportunity and security, if their wives are willing and able (educated) to help out as needed. Thats just my view. 🙂
Keep thinking C, America needs thinking!
September 15, 2008 at 6:21 am
You are barking up the wrong tree, C. Most of these women just want a career until they find a wonderful husband to start a family with.
Galactic Love has been with many of these “career women” and they are nothing like those snobbish Western counterparts we are all too familiar with.
They just need money while they pursue a genuine interest.
June 9, 2009 at 9:03 pm
The question is “can they create and sustain happiness and love in a family not even knowing how to do that?”
This no one teaches in the school or universities. Mothers do not teach that girls as well (because they don’t know how to do that)
That’s the huge problem not only in Russia, but in around the world!
Ekaterina, Russian Woman
September 15, 2008 at 8:23 am
C I agree with Centrist for them most part. Russian women in general do NOT use a career as an excuse to not remain feminine or devoted to their families.
That is the KEY difference here that most western men don’t really understand. I’m certain this is the case because it seems like the vast majority of western women use career as an excuse to amplify their already high levels of narcissism.
September 15, 2008 at 8:25 am
Greg you are asking for generalizations on a woman I personally know nothing about. I’d highly recommend that you keep an open mind and just travel to her part of the world and get a life education that will change you. If you find her to be trustworthy while there then great. If not then there are many other girls there for you to meet I’m sure.
September 15, 2008 at 8:26 am
Taras both Snejana and Jenya read this page so I’m sure your warm words are already appreciated greatly by them. 🙂
September 15, 2008 at 9:19 am
GL/others
It’s very expensive to train up engineers and doctors. If a woman gets trained as one, and then quits her career when she gets married, isn’t this a collosal waste of money? She might only practice her profession for a few short years — or in the case of longer training like medicine, never.
Would love to hear the comments of Snejana and Jenya on this.
Thanks
September 15, 2008 at 10:42 am
Hello Again Dawn,
You are thinking about educational costs in the US or the West to become a doctor or engineer.
You are missing the fact that the educational cost in the FSU is “extremely” affordable by Western standards.
There are many Russian and FSU women who are doctors and engineers here but they are still devoted wives and mothers. They normally end up marrying fellow doctors and engineers too since on an intellectual level they have much to relate to each other on.
I think you are trying to imply that all women have a mutually exclusive choice between solid family and career as Feminist dogma tries to propagate.
As I’ve said in a previous thread this maybe the excuse used in the US and the West. But it’s completely alien over here.
Dawn in many ways this discussion is sad to me because you Western Women simply don’t get it.
Russian Women over here can do EVERYTHING on a professional level that a Western Woman can do and STILL maintain complete fidelity to her core Traditional Feminine IDENTITY.
Or in other words.. they can be very successful doctors and engineers and NEVER bitch about it as an excuse to neglect their family. They do both with grace and virtuosity.
That’s a key thing that I absolutely LOVE about these women..
Their mere existence and success as traditional women completely shatters everything that the leftist feminist have been spewing for almost 40 years now.
Western Women fall completely short of their full potential because their brains are filled with feminist ideology and excuses.
I am completely surrounded by living proof of what real women can achieve every single blessed day that I am here.
Have a good one.. GL
September 15, 2008 at 10:47 am
Sigh… I meant to type RW and not RC.
I’ll avoid writing books (and lecturing) in future posts by the way. Us extroverts are long-winded even when writing! 😦
September 15, 2008 at 12:04 pm
GL
Thanks, that’s a helpful explanation.
Over here it would be extremely difficult to be a devoted mother and a medical trainee at the same time. In the early years, doctors have to work regular 80-100 hour weeks. It would be nigh on impossible to do this and also meet the kids after school, cook every night, clean one’s own house, spend time at the tanning salon, getting bikini wax and so on. I do not think this is an excuse — add it up, there are simply not enough hours in the day.
Perhaps it is possible to do these jobs part time in Russia?
September 15, 2008 at 12:04 pm
By the way, on the cost of education — the point still stands. Even if the individual is not paying for it, someone is.
September 15, 2008 at 3:08 pm
GL,
“Western women fall completely short of their full potential because their brains are filled with feminist ideology and excuses.”
Outside of feminist ideology, our education, system, and culture has done a lot to limit the options of western women. It is possible for her to choose to be traditional but western society as a whole is not supportive and therefore she may feel forced to make some tough decisions. Unfortunately in many cases the choices that she makes are not the best ones for either her happiness or that of her family. However they may of may not be always due to feminism alone.
Newfoundlander
September 15, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I am totally speechless. She is beyond stunning.
September 15, 2008 at 10:56 pm
All I can say is that your photos just keep getting better and better, RW_man.
If Jenya ever makes it to Washington D.C., I’d be happy to give her a tour and some private tutoring in math. 🙂
September 16, 2008 at 9:40 am
Thanks Hero, Peregrine & Ken. Jenya is a real doll no doubt and she was excited and flattered to have these photos that I took of her posted. Like I mentioned before she reads this site so you can say hello to her as well. 🙂 GL
September 16, 2008 at 10:46 am
In that case — girl to girl — Jenya, I really like your eye makeup!
September 16, 2008 at 11:05 pm
rw,
When I find myself drawn inexorability to gaze at these gorgeous ladies (As I often do), I kinda feel sorry for so the many “westernized” women that think it’s only about a physical, sexual attraction. What makes men like me melt at their sight, AFTER my blood pressure returns to normal, is the understanding that, apparently a majority of these pretty ladies REALLY DO value being honorable, gentle, traditional, feminine women, wives and mothers.
Feminist “Behavior” makes a Beauty Queen fun to look at, but nothing more. Imagine the plight of the “Marginally attractive” women! How much simpler does it get?
To Snejana and Jenya: You two are undoubtedly beautiful and amazing to look at. More importantly I think you two are a great example of what God had in mind when he created “Woman”. 🙂
September 17, 2008 at 2:28 am
Hi GL & Jenya,
Wow – outstanding photographs! Jenya has certainly shown a genuine sense of femininity. Beauty and brain – wonderful combination!
Imagine having a crappy day at the office and having a wonderful lady like Jenya to brighten up someone’s life at home? 🙂
It is a dream that I’ve been chasing to turn it into a reality.
GL – your photography skills are excellent. Keep up the good work!
Jenya – keep smiling so everybody can have a happy face!
September 17, 2008 at 2:38 am
I’m just genuinely concerned for these russian women because they have already seen the insanity of communism and the police state and now they are seeing the flip side of the same coin that is “democracy” and “capitalism”,which is basically the same thing as communism.
It’s just hard for me to understand that these russian and eastern european women can actually completely appriciate and fulfill their crucial feminine role and also spend so much time devoted to engineering and mathematics and education.
I part agree with Dawn on this: there is only so much time in the day to get things done without becoming work weary and extremely fatigued. It seems nowadays that no one gets an opportunity to relax without doing something stressful or competitive.
I’ll admit it to you GL (rw_man) I have not known russian women yet in my life. Only through you, your website and selected media can I make any reserved points about russian women.
My real concern here is that I don’t want to see these russian women turn into their american or westernized counterparts. I want these russian women to keep their identities and culture and family values that are so lax in todays american women.
And to all those men, GL, continue to fight the good fight and loving those russian and eastern european women!
Sincerely from, C
September 17, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Hi C,
I think I’ve mentioned this a few times before but let me try to reiterate it for you and everyone reading this.
Do we have western, materialistic type women here in Russia and the FSU? Yes of course we do because these women exist everywhere in the world regardless of country.
However, and this is a key point. Do these materialistic women exist as the majority over here? NOPE..
You need to keep one thing clearly in mind in regards to this subject. Competition between Russian and FSU women for a good man is quite fierce. If one lady decides to become high and mighty in terms of her attitude there are many other more modest and equally beautiful girls here who could EASILY replace her if her man decides he’s had enough of that type of behavior.
As a result this tends to foster effective “Attitude Adjustment” relatively quickly over time.
The competitive demographics of this region just don’t promote an environment where any of these women can afford to be too full of herself by western standards for too long.
So in other words C… Stop worrying about it and just bite the bullet and get yourself over here and see it for yourself.
And in regards to this C I’d like to ask you a question..
Just when do you plan on coming over? The best time for doing it is already over since Summer is gone. Is this just a fantasy for you or are you really going to make it happen?
I’ve know plenty of guys now who at one time have never been outside of the US and they took the leap of faith to travel here and have been greatly rewarded for their courage.
What about you C?
Take care,
GL
September 17, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Hello everyone,
In case you haven’t noticed yet if you click any of the picture of Jenya above you can see a MUCH more higher resolution image.
I’ve been playing around a bit with wordpress and I really like being able to offer larger images to you folks. So if you like it let me know and maybe I’ll keep doing it for my future photo posts as well GL
PS Don’t forget to Digg this page please..
🙂
September 18, 2008 at 1:14 am
You’re right, of course, GL.
Someday, not this year and may not be next year, but someday I just may.
I don’t plan on going to russia without any knowledge of the language, that’s for sure!
I don’t really know any useful russian words/phrases. This all sounds like excuses.
There are Russian communities over here in the states, so that may be worth looking at.
I don’t really want to go anywhere right now and I realize that I am missing something that you are not. As has been said of anything worth having, “Longing makes the heart grow fonder” and “like a sable I watch and I wait and then…I pounce.”
Some people just want love or maybe they need love more than others. I will tell you that I am impressed by these russian women and by your observation and writing about them. I have already come to the decision that a white eastern european or white russian woman is what I am looking for all their qualities and subtleties, their grace and their beauty.
Thank you GL for having the stones to say something like that.
Sincerely from, C
REPLY TO: And in regards to this C I’d like to ask you a question..
Just when do you plan on coming over? The best time for doing it is already over since Summer is gone. Is this just a fantasy for you or are you really going to make it happen?
I’ve know plenty of guys now who at one time have never been outside of the US and they took the leap of faith to travel here and have been greatly rewarded for their courage.
September 18, 2008 at 7:01 am
Hello budoka,
You can also imagine having these girls at the office in the first place 🙂
Then I think it would be much harder for your to have a crappy day to start with. Thanks for the compliment by the way.. GL
September 18, 2008 at 7:52 am
C,
I hope you can tell from going through this blog that I’ve personally interacted with tons of fantastic women.
And the picture and stories here are only the tip of the iceberg and many of these ladies have great difficulties in finding devoted men who are capable of creating a real family with them.
How could I not be moved by this plight and not try to do something about it?
Although this blog is a celebration of who these women are…
It is also a total call to action for Gentlemen like yourself who no doubt would completely appreciate any opportunity to meet ladies like this let alone have a chance to establish a relationship with them.
But as you know nothing worthwhile in life happen without a serious plan and effort to turn any dream into reality.
I decided to push on you C because worrying about any “hypothetical scenario” regarding these women becoming negatively westernized is not productive for you and it’s CERTAINLY not going to help any lady in waiting here who has her aspirations for the future dependent on someone like you.
All it takes is one trip for you to “get it”. And this alone is priceless because your attitude will be completely shifted and you will realize where your own physical, emotional and spiritual future lies.
All you need is only one woman right???
Well I guarantee you she does exist in-spite of any anxieties about the female population at large here.
So do you and HER a big favor and go out and find her NOW.
General Patton in his great wisdom said the following things about this very subject..
“A good solution applied with vigor now is better than a perfect solution applied ten minutes later.”
“No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair.”
Take care.. GL
September 18, 2008 at 8:02 am
Dawn about your point concerning only a fixed number of hours in the day please keep this in mind. You are correct in that Russia and the FSU also only have 24 hours in the day.
But..
Russian Women in general have MUCH CLOSER Relationships with their Mothers, Sisters, Cousins and Girlfriends then Western Women have with each other.
So especially where children are concerned there is much more harmonious and communal efforts taking place to assist and support.
Before I came to Russia I thought the whole “Comrade” term was a joke.
It’s not..
GL
October 1, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Dear Dawn,
You have a point about all that money invested in one person’s education and such person not making any use of it. Sadly it has something wrong. And it is easy to show the weak point by turning it around, how about all the money our society invests in rising women to maturity and then those women deciding they don’t want to have children, isn’t it wasted money?
So now you can see the flaw on this kind of statements, they only make sense if you consider only your point of view. Maybe for these women, having a family it is just as important as to having postgraduate studies. So, to them, lowering the pace in their professional careers to live their family values is completely logical and appealing, and in my opinion they have all the right to choose whatever it makes them happy, just as western women tend to postpone their maternity in order to be happy with their professional development.
Dear Jenya,
It is great to know intelligent and beautiful women, by looking at your smile I guess you are also a very amusing girl. I always have admired determined people and I bet you will get from life whatever you liked to have. Best wishes.
Regards,
Jim
As always sorry about my English but it is not my first language.
October 2, 2008 at 8:42 am
Jim
You make a good and interesting point. I hadn’t thought about it that way.
I guess the counter argument to your point would be this: if you pick a man and a woman at random from a population, it is statistically more likely that the woman will have at least one child in her life than that the man will. So your argument, if you accept its premises, is actually more of an argument against raising men to maturity 🙂
(Now of course I am all for raising men to maturity… just pointing out the logical conclusion.)
Secondly, there is a distinction between contributing to society via your career and via your children. Men get educated and then contribute via their career. This is fine as both parts are in line. But if a woman gets educated and then does not use this education, she is switching between the two types of contribution unnecessarily. She could have just had kids in the first place.
As an example: being educated as an engineer certainly helps you be a better engineer. But it is hard to see how it helps you be a better mother. Sure, you can help your children with their science homework, but you probably could have done that on the basis of high school science without spending years studying higher calculus.
October 2, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Dawn,
what you are not taking into account is the fluid nature of life and of the human consciousness itself. What looks like the best investment for the future can be stripped of all meaning and importance in a split second. One single scientific finding can render obsolete dozens of very convincing theories. Unforseen events such as an economic meltdown, falling in love, loss of health, sudden good financial gains, can all contribute to changing the most firm and well-intentioned plans into something quite different.
We can never accurately plan for the future. Life can not be compartmentalized like an excel sheet. There is no waste when a woman pays herself with her time, energy, and money for an education, and then decides it will make her happier (what a waste if she goes through with something that does not make her happy lifelong) to be a housewife and mother. You can make those judgment calls for your own life, but can suddenly one day realize that you want something different. You would not force yourself into that thing you prepared yourself for, leaving behind what you dream of now, simply because it would be a “waste” to.
At least I hope not. That would be insane.
October 3, 2008 at 4:04 am
I love this active exchange. The various perspectives show us all that what is right for one may indeed not be right for another and also that we could easily change our goals and direction at any time. It still seems somewhat like a fundamental question exists regarding making a choice verses following the call of nature. We have come so far in the past 100 years and even more dramatically so in the past 20 or 30. One fact remains however, and that is that men will never replace women as mothers and women will never replace men as fathers. I’m a single dad with full custody of my young daughter. I feel like I am as good of a father as I know how to be but there will never be a time that I can share the most intimate details of womanhood with her. I have never “been there” and consequently I can not give a first hand account of what is going through her heart or mind. We all understand that life has grown more complex as the planet shrinks beneath our feet but the basics have never changed. I equate womanhood to the process of giving birth and the nurturing of children above any other career. I also see the roll of provider and protector best suited for men. The advances of the past century aside, thousands of years of the evolution of mankind couldn’t merely be a sad mistake by our creator.
October 3, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Dear Dawn,
In fact my argument is a kind of a joke, just to show how those kind of generalizations have a vain content.
(Now of course I am all for raising men and women alike to maturity… just pointing out the logical conclusion.)
Just to contradict your arguments again. Maybe someone wants to study engineering for self realization, and then become a mother, also for self realization. I think I have no right to condemn such a decision. In fact I think an individual who has the maturity to understand that kind of decision has something very important to offer as a mother. And a society which promotes self realization is far better that one that only promotes economic/professional realization. Human development does not consists in being an engineer (I am an engineer but do not feel like a fully developed human). Human development consists as its name suggests development of human features and values, one of which is professional development, but it is not the only one.
Dear Richard,
Once I heard from someone that going against our own nature only hurts ourselves and those around. In that time it didn’t make any sense. But as years have passed by, many thing came to take sense. I am not saying things can not be made in different ways, I am only saying it has a cost to do things a different way. And when talking about the structure of family/society the cost has something to do with pain in the heart.
Regards.
October 4, 2008 at 1:34 am
I’m glad you enjoyed that, Richard 😉 But it really concerns me that far too many people (read: more than one) have the “human resources” outlook as far as other people’s life choices are concerned. People are not resources, and they are not their jobs. Furthermore, “society” (how DO you define “society” exactly??) is not owed anything by any given individual, so there goes the idea that one person leaving behind an outgrown dream or goal could possibly be a waste of resources, financial, time, or human.
A lot of my antagonism against your arguments, Dawn, has been exacerbated after reading a couple of excellent books which I think you will appreciate (if you haven’t already read them). THE BLACK SWAN by Nassim Nicholas Taleb (regarding statistics and human motion, among other things), and ADAM SMITH’S MISTAKE by Kenneth Lux.
Manoah, if you’re around and you’ve read either of these, I’d love to hear your thoughts on them.
Thank you. I’m done.
October 4, 2008 at 9:36 pm
doamna,
I think you may have mixed my thoughts with Jim’s but my view of “our society” is the cumulative consciousness of the majority of the people. Unfortunately it is a group of minority voices, or ‘squeaky wheels’ if you will, that speak for the majority of societies in the world. Whether by totalitarian oppression in some countries, the lack of motivation of the people due to poverty in other countries or under the guise of democracy which is truly held captive by banking, industry, lobbyists and other power brokers here in NA; the majority of people (society) are the silent majority. Modern society in my opinion is the sad remnant of individual cultures which have become so diluted and polluted as to no longer be recognizable as individual groups with unique heritages.
As that applies here, it is ‘our society’ which dictates loose or absent moral character and a behavior which embarrasses our ancestors. It is also this ‘society’ which has reduced people to little more than a resource to be measured on some custom designed, corporate measuring stick.
Like you, I do not feel that people are mere resources or that their personal choices should be judged against the current trends set by other people’s choices.
I find it no less infuriating to be branded by my age and marital status than I did when I was marked as lazy and useless by the length of my hair or the style of my jeans at seventeen.
I have proven myself to be resourceful and successful in many venues and it constantly amazes me that every day our ‘society’ demands more proof of me. That realization has brought me full circle in my life to where I once again can say with no hesitation that I am who I am and if anyone doesn’t like it they can take a flying leap. My own society does not accept the maverick instinct yet the minority percentile within it respects that instinct. I choose to satisfy myself and the latter of those two camps.
Women who choose to allow their career and personal life to be driven by the thinking of a handful of angry, outspoken, male fearing, feminists are going against nature, not society. Feminist will never achieve a majority position even though their voice will always be heard above the din of masses. As the masses mumble about their lot in life, the radicals scream at the top of their lungs from every podium and microphone they can reach. The minority in a free society will always have a loud voice.
If the feminist movement really wanted to effect change in the world they would pack their collective crap and move to the Middle East where their selfish whining and arrogant sense of entitlement would be met with the type of response it deserves. One thing that can almost always be said about their sort of message is that it will be found on the path of least resistance.
Society does, in fact, owe us something and we owe it as well. Society owes us the courtesy of letting us have and use our own minds and to be allowed to express ourselves socially and professionally as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others. And we owe society the respect of not abusing that freedom by bending the rules to fit our own wants and needs at the expense of others.
October 4, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Jim,
I am hoping to share a concept here rather than contradict something you’ve said. If going against nature only hurts our self, how many of “us” would need to be hurt by it before we would all be hurting from sheer numbers? Also, how many would need to be hurt before society as a whole would feel the pain and try modifying their behavior to avoid such a fate? Could we all see social thinking drastically altered to fit a “less painful” way of life? I think that is exactly what we are seeing now.
If going against my nature was to hurt my daughter, how might that hurt manifest in her life? How many people could that potentially touch?
I contend that we are obligated by birth to live a life which does not seek to change the course of nature but rather to discover for ourselves the best way in which we can live up to it. How much greater the call of nature than to find a mate, build a family and to pass on the best of the experience to future generations?
Things can be different as change is inevitable. However, change for change’s sake is not following the course of nature. Growth, self improvement, the process of learning our place in the grand scheme of things are all changes but they are in a positive direction.
If pain of the heart is the cost of not learning from our mistakes, we need to sit up and pay attention because the people of our society are wreathing. The benefits of loving marriages, stable homes and a stronger future for our children are being cashed in ahead of payment.
October 13, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Hi,
I am an English girl and I came across this site by accident. It seemed to be heralding Russian women’s beauty above any other’s but it wasn’t long before I realised what this website was really about – not superior facial features of one nationality over another, but the fact these girls keep their feminism (as in, feminine beauty, inside and out). And I think it’s great.
I can’t say too much about American girls although here we do absorb much of their culture, such as in ‘chavs’… I’ve read some articles etc. and I think your overall message is fantastic.
I just want to say – I am Western, but I am very feminine! I cook (my own cakes, bread etc., with my sister, my mother taught us all (and to sew our own clothes, which she made, and our toys!), it sounds very quaint but is very normal and fun to us and I love it!) and I grew up in beautiful countryside, am studying for degree too. I am intelligent and VERY girly and see no contradiction. Please, make sure you don’t lump all ‘Western’ girls in same boat! But I agree that the feminist movement does the opposite of what it should. It doesn’t encourage feminity at all, it restricts it. They say they hate men then try to act like ’em!
Much love.
October 13, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Hi Bela 🙂
Thanks for taking the time to read through these articles and realizing it’s true purpose as you so correctly pointed out.
I certainly don’t want to lump great exceptions like yourself in with the more negative aspects of Western Womanhood.
But as you so accurately indicated. There is a real “hate men” and “act like men” undercurrent happening. This in itself makes the whole feminism movement look pretty schizo in my book.
Usually if you hate someone but also want to be like them at the same time that usually spells out.
JEALOUSY
Pretty sad and transparent eh?
Would love to hear more about your traditional feminine lifestyle too by the way.
It sounds quite refreshing.. 🙂
GL
October 13, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Hi!
Not sure what to say about it so I’ll just see what comes out! My mother married young (still married), had us three daughters. We were quite poor so she made all our toys and clothes, until I (the youngest) grew older and it was cheaper to buy clothes than find good fabric! My sis and I, as I said, loooove to cook (especially cakes/bread, I love healthy food so like to make things that are delicious and also good for you). No one can do an English Sunday lunch like my mother. It’s food of the gods. I just hope she passed it down right. I don’t get drunk. Or flash.
I always wear skirts and dresses whenever I can! And I have a fur coat. It’s faux, but it’s gorgeous. And pearls. I got some real pearls for my 18th birthday so wear them a lot although that was a few years back now. I take a bath with candles and read poetry to relax a lot. I love being a woman, likewise men should love being men. It’s how things are and it is beautiful. It’s upsetting that some women think because you are feminine you will be weak and want men to tread over you. Where’s the connection? I have never seen it, and my father would never tread over my mother no matter how good a wife she was. It’s insulting – are men evil animals that must be tamed by women being mock-men and overpowering them?
I’ve noticed I eat tiny portions and chew a lot similiar to how you describe Russian women do, which is refreshing. Sometimes I get asked if I am anorexic. I am healthy, but slim (the body type of pretty much everyone in the photos on here). I find it really juvenile to constantly get told ‘real women have curves’ etc. I think people should just take care of themselves and whatever the result is, that’s perfect.
xxx
October 13, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Bella,
Your recent additions inspire hope. It is always refreshing to hear from women who defy the modern norms and choose sound upbringing over media rhetoric.
Since you’ve mentioned being a westerner, may I ask what region you live in? Also, is this the same place where you grew up? What about the other women your age who live around you; are they more in step with the current lack of moral conviction or do you have peers that you consider like minded?
I think that one very important part to the puzzle we all face here is finding and supporting those who share our beliefs. The area where I am residing is very much a deep ultra liberal pool and that makes feminism strong here. The entire region around the Pacific Northwestern US and Southwestern Canada is alive with “forward thinking” and consequently traditional values suffer here.
Hopefully you will continue to share your thoughts, feelings and observations with the rest of us. Thank you for stepping up and speaking out about this. And thank your parents for me, since it is clear that they have made a sound impression on you and your sisters regarding what is right in the world.
October 14, 2008 at 6:22 am
Hi Bella,
I’m interested in hearing about the pressure you’ve felt from feminist who are trying stomp out your normal femininity. Group-think is always a nasty thing to encounter.
October 14, 2008 at 11:18 am
Richard-
I live in England, have all my life. The other women my age around me differ a lot. I don’t go out drinking, but I know in my town at night there’ll be lot of ‘ladettes’ knocking the alcohol back and shouting in the street (and worse)… but on the other hand I have some friends whom you’d love to bits.
I grew up in a beautiful little village, seen few that exist like it, I was very lucky. I live in a city now, but will always be a country girl! Intend to get a little cottage in countryside as soon as possible, maybe a smallholding (always liked the idea of getting my own organic duck eggs etc.) and I’ll bake my bread all day haha…
I’ll keep popping back, I love this site and I bet you don’t have too many Western girls on here commenting, right?
RW –
I’ve only really come across ‘proper’ feminists on the internet (yes, all of them American!) and they thought I was weak-minded and brainwashed by a patriarchal society to wear makeup, shave, wash my hair (really), etc. I didn’t really feel any pressure. At the end of the day, I am not a man and don’t see why I should act like one. As for being brainwashed by society, I think there’s a big difference between being girly and being swamped by consumerism. It’s fine to wear makeup, I feel, as long as it’s not necessary and doesn’t become a mask, it’s good to take care of myself as much as I can as long as I don’t end up getting insecure about my appearance and comparing myself to airbrushed celebrities… you can and should enjoy being feminine, just add a bit of common-sense into the mix.
Is that an ok answer or did I go off on a tangent?
xx
October 14, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Bella,
Thank you for the answers and info. Also, thank you for the great perspective regarding you and your peers in the area where you live. (I love England, though I haven’t seen as much of the country as I would like)
Most small towns and rural communities are similar everywhere I have been in the world. The values are so traditional and solid when you are removed from the over stimulation of cityscapes.
By the way I am also from a very small town. A country boy in the big city now but a part of me will always be somewhere between a vegetable garden and a milk cow.
Though our family farm was archaic even in its time, we were privy to a lifestyle and thought processes which are timeless in their benefits. We had very few “store bought” goods. Toys were home made and often improvisations of whatever happened to be lying around. Clothes were home made except for jeans which were purchased once a year depending on the need. Being one of the youngest boys among the connected families, I was never in new jeans until grade 6. Hand-me-down was new to me. Stick boat racing in the creek, rope swinging in the hay loft and seeing how many kids we could get atop the draft horse were some of our most enjoyable pass times. Battling with sandstones and chasing each other with burning cat tail weeds were common events and nobody ever considered these things dangerous, and surprisingly none of us were ever seriously hurt by doing them.
Now as an adult in a big city raising a young daughter, I almost wish that times were more like my childhood. Back then I thought we were the poorest and most backward people who ever lived. Now I look at all of the grown up versions of my childhood family and friends and it is very clear that those of us raised in that time and place are better off than the rest of our peers.
Cheers to you for all of your hopes and dreams, and for the strong stand you take regarding your core values. Bless your heart for placing common sense high on the list of life skills in your repertoire.
October 20, 2008 at 8:41 pm
I have made a blog, and I realised I felt nervous about it… which shows that feminism does affect everyone.
Hopefully my comment will show up with a link to my blog though not sure what to put in it yet.
I do believe feminism will die out. Do you?
October 21, 2008 at 1:48 am
Well, Bella, I think that feminism as we know it today will be around for another generation or two at the very least. Hopefully one day we will be able to speak of it in the past tense. I pray that when my daughter is an adult, she will be able to joke about how ridiculous the feminist movement was. It would seem that like all fads it should have passed by now but some bad ideas just hang around forever.
At least that’s my thought on the question.
December 28, 2009 at 1:41 pm
And wasn’t feminism or the feminist movement created/funded by the rockefeller foundation & rockefeller brothers. Or was that the womens liberation movement? I’m confused with the (2).
Apparently, they help fund the bolshevick revolution which is “drops jaw”…….
Oh well. I love the pictures of russian women on this site, they are all so amazingly beautiful!
December 7, 2008 at 1:37 am
i have to say, really,i don`t know what is this all about, and i don`t know who they are, i don`t even know what i`m doing here, but really, i`m being serius, i had never seen an so attractive girl in my life, that girl, wow, she`s stunning, i`m eric, from argentina, south america, it was a pleasure at least for me to see such a a girl, hope you to write me so we can have a nice chat.
kisses eric.
December 11, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Hey Eric,
Yeah, a girl like Jenya would reduce me to rambling and stammering too 😆 She really is a gift from God, as are many other Russian ladies.
February 5, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Stunning pictures GL! Grace, beauty, warmth and intelligence; I’m speechless! So many of your pictures exemplify this in such a natural way.
Bella: Your link didnt come through, can you send it through?
Snejana & Jenya: Your pictures really are stunning. I can’t say anything that hasn’t already been said on this thread.
I would very much like to hear from you on how you divide your time for school, studies and work as well as hearing about life, work and culture.
🙂
February 6, 2009 at 6:09 pm
I haven’t written in my blog for a while but hopefully my name will link to it now 🙂
December 28, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I thought Purin was bringing communism back to russia,and if not–why does he wish to return as president soon? he is prime minister now, with what—medvedev currently as president.
Nevermind, forget I said anything. 🙂
Snejana & Jenya: You (2) are so exuisitely beautiful and energizing. Absolutely amazing beauty the two of U have. An eginneer? Spectacular. Why isn’t theye any russian female computer animators or game developers?
Since I want want to be a game developer/animator/writer, I was pondering the notion that…well, you know…theyre would be a female counterpart to help me….animate and conquer a part of the world with animation & games and…a family, maybe. 🙂 Designe the inside of coporate sky scrappers or something…ahh, off topic.
The women in russia are so beautiful, wish I could go there..maybe I will, in the future.
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July 16, 2010 at 11:02 am
This girl lives in my city! However I know much more girls like her. Our city is full of this women. They are everywhere, shops, parking lots, bars, forests and etc. This is why we don’t really pay attention to them like foreigers do!)