Say hello to the lovely Miss Katya.
Katya is a striking and “bewitching” young lady from Central Kazakshtan.
She enjoys studying English and has a great desire to utilize her knowledge to prepare for some future travels to Europe and the US that she often dreams about.
I met her last week at a friendly Texas Hold’em game that I was invited to. She was there as a friend of a friend’s girlfriend.. or something like that..
She never played the game before so I was more then happy to teach her the rules and some basic strategy. Well something interesting happened on the way to counting the poker chips.
First off in the very first hand she ever played she got a King High Royal Flush.
And keep in mind this is a hand that I have NEVER seen before in all the years I’ve played poker.
From that point on this 19 year old emerald eyed enchantress proceeded to eventually clean out the 8 other players at the table including myself..
Beginners luck indeed.
Or did I just meet Lady Luck instead?
Well in anycase I wised up pretty quickly and realized that I certainly didn’t need to “help” a spellbinding young woman who already held all the cards..
(In more ways then one I might add.)
In anycase she was gracious enough to give me a conciliatory price and allow me to snap some stunning photos of her.
So I guess in that regard..
You and I are the ones who really ended up with the winning hand.
Russian Women - The Real Truth 
February 25, 2009 at 10:51 am
wow! she’s beautiful, I love it xoxo
February 25, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Is she single…. ???
February 25, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Beautiful day.
February 25, 2009 at 8:17 pm
LADY! What the heck?
Beautiful lady :]
February 26, 2009 at 2:20 am
Now I’m the kinda girl that gets too much dirt under her fingernails and lets her cuticles dry out… but I sure can appreciate a pretty manicure. I love the design on her nails 🙂
Katya is a very beautiful girl 🙂 Congrats on her poker win!
February 26, 2009 at 2:33 am
Oh, she is beautiful!! I wish I could play poker like that!
February 26, 2009 at 2:36 am
Now, that’s what I am talking about, GL! Did the two of you collaborate on the poses? After viewing dozens of your pictures, I am still amazed at how dressy these young women are. It looks as if she has been put together by some professional stylist or something. It’s encouraging to see that Katya shares a desire to learn with so many of the other ladies you have introduced us to.
February 26, 2009 at 4:45 am
Yummy.
February 26, 2009 at 7:03 am
Yes Katya certainly has great taste and style. And it comes quite naturally to her as with most Russian and FSU Women I know.
To answer your question Sam I didn’t “coach” her. As always I just followed with a camera in hand. Keep in mind that putting a camera in front of a beautiful Russian Girl is kind of like putting a lollipop in front of a kid who’s been craving one for over a year.
They eat it up.. Especially since the chance for them to have any decent photos taken of them is so rare. This is a very special type of attention for them.
It’s a treated as a big compliment and a type of special recognition for all the hard work they put into making themselves look good.
And by the way.. there was no stylist.. this was just the way she showed up..
Totally cool I know.. 🙂
GL
February 26, 2009 at 7:23 am
Hi Lauren,
Yes manicured and decorated nails like you see on Katya are very popular and quite inexpensive to have done. And of course they have the added benefit of being a complete turn on to see on a lady like this. 🙂
Also in case any of you haven’t already noticed.. click on any of the images to see the full size raw image.
I think you guys might appreciate that. 🙂
February 26, 2009 at 8:57 am
Oh my now this is seriously tacky.
The jacket and the leggins are so cheap and worn out (you don’t even need to zoom in to see this) and the boots oh well…
In Russia there’s a saying “when you meet someone you pay attention to appearences first and only later to this person’s intelligence”…poor girl…
February 26, 2009 at 9:05 am
Kisha.. usually when a woman criticizes another woman in the manner you just did it indicates some seriously envy.
I’d be real careful about making extremely petty and cheap insults to a very nice girl that probably 99% of us find to be quite beautiful.
Because that 99% will look at you and say.. What’s the real agenda with your petty comments here?
February 26, 2009 at 10:19 am
She is stunningly beautiful. Absolutely perfect doll face and flawless skin.
Got to agree w Kisha though – horrible clothes and nails.
RW-man, you can’t just claim ‘envy’ every time anyone makes any hint of a critique of something a Russian woman does! This is your stock response and it’s getting old. It is perfectly possible to disagree with the beauty of a painting, the merits of a film, or the insights of a thesis — without being envious. Same with someone’s fashion choices.
February 26, 2009 at 11:04 am
No Dawn,
Actually I CAN make that claim..
Envy is one of the 7 Deadly Sins for a very good reason.
And going into denial about it when it is so obvious displayed in the form of catty, petty behavior is like denying that you ever go to the toilet.
I don’t know about you Dawn but firing off an opening salvo of cheap shots over something so completely banal is not something I would consider to be normal behavior in semi-civilized company.
And if it’s initiated you can bet I will call it for what it is..
J.. E.. A.. L.. O.. U.. S.. Y..
Deep down inside you know this to be true Dawn..
Envy is a much more prevalent and uglier part of human nature then most people care to admit.
But it’s there.. And it’s a HUGE part of what it means to be a living, thinking being whether you are a middle aged woman looking down on a younger woman who captures more attention or whether you are any male member of the animal kingdom that is losing out against a stronger rival on the chance to mate with a desirable female.
Envy is simply the waste product of a LOSER.
And if there is a foul stench lingering in the air or a foul comment on a discussion board.. Then something is OBVIOUSLY there.
So keep that in mind because this blog is not your favorite hairdresser salon downtown. You ladies are more then welcome to go there to pamper yourselves and to expunge your emotional waste products by saying whatever offbeat things you wish in that arena like..
“Oh my GOD Mary.. did you see that horrible blouse that that young little hussy is wearing today.. Oh PLEASE…”
Meanwhile the Men keep passing by and can’t keep their eyes off of this “little hussy” like they do on this blog.
February 26, 2009 at 11:27 am
GL
All you’ve done above is repeat your earlier claim that any critique of any aspect of a Russian woman must stem from envy.
Do you have any evidence of this whatsoever?
Think logically. Can you imagine any situation in which anyone could critique any aspect of a Russian woman and it NOT be based on envy? In those situations, what factors would mark out the comments as not being envious? If you can’t answer these two questions, then it’s clear you’re just using ‘envy’ as an empty way of dismissing comments you don’t like.
You are not doing your arguments any favours with this approach. If Russian women are so spectacular, they can stand or fall on their own merits. Like us all, they are human. Why can’t you admit that tradeoffs exist? Why the need to be so defensive?
February 26, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Hello Dawn and Kisha,
I appreciate your comments, even though I strongly disagree. Differences of opinion on style are common and healthy. I do object to the criticism of the age and quality of Katya’s attire, though. Whether she wears older and perhaps cheaper things for economic or philosophical reasons I do not know, but the fact remains that what she wears, she wears well. 99.9% of the males around this troubled world would describe her as stunning in her boots and leggings. In addition, GL has consistently educated us about the intellectual and cultural curiosity of these fair ladies. I hope Katya is able to visit the States in the near future, and fulfill some of her dreams.
February 26, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Seth Ogilvie said: “99.9% of the males around this troubled world would describe her as stunning in her boots and leggings.”
So would a fair amount of the women (and I say this as a straight girl.) Beauty should make you smile wherever you see it!
February 26, 2009 at 2:15 pm
*SAM Ogilvie, I meant – i was thinking of a Seth I know personally. Sorry, Sam!
February 26, 2009 at 3:17 pm
When women stress about fashion they do so because they want to please/placate other women – they’re the ones who obsess about fabric/style/cut anyway. Men are mostly interested in what’s under the clothes, right?
Women who care about pleasing their man(prospective or otherwise) dress to please the kind of man they have or want. So save the comments about the clothing. I doubt if the young lady in question would be much concerned about the female comments.
February 26, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Depends on the circles you move in, Doamna.
And Sophie – no-one’s arguing this girl isn’t hot stuff.
February 26, 2009 at 4:35 pm
I meant that beauty isn’t just about sexual attraction – but who knows? Perhaps it is? It’s supposed to be tied to fertility after all.
If the site owner/blogger reads this: does Katya make her own clothes? I remember a post here about Eastern European women being good at this
February 26, 2009 at 6:19 pm
I think she looks beautiful, including her clothes.
I am pretty free-spirited about clothes. I don’t care if they look a bit worn or if some item is out of fashion. You have to look at the overall picture. Maybe I have more of an open mind as I am an artist. And a Brit ;]
She has individuality and I think it looks fine, I would much rather see a bit of creativity and femininity than some jeans, knock-off Uggs and a tshirt, which seems to be the default uniform for girls her age in other countries.
February 26, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Hello Doamna,
I just checked out your blog on my lunch break. It’s excellent.
Regardless of what one thinks about GL’s economic,social and political views, he has always emphasized that a woman is much more than a body, and he continually praises the minds and spirits of these ladies that he devotes so much time to. He has made it clear in his many stories that he looks far beyond what meets the eye.
As a man, I look at clothes as almost purely functional, but I can really appreciate the creativity and personality women express in the things they wear. I know several women of all ages here in the States who spend modestly on clothes, but still manage to look gorgeous. Katya has an advantage in her rare beauty, but to my untrained eye she has dressed well for the occasion—-much to our and GL’s benefit.
February 26, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Dawn, perhaps.
Sam, thanks!
February 26, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Dawn..
Check out Kisha’s missive below..
“Oh my now this is seriously tacky.
The jacket and the leggins are so cheap and worn out (you don’t even need to zoom in to see this) and the boots oh well…
In Russia there’s a saying “when you meet someone you pay attention to appearences first and only later to this person’s intelligence”…poor girl…”
No matter how you consistently try to spin this.. this comment is not the position of a simple difference in opinion.
A real difference in opinion would not take on such a condescending tone.. Surely you are “logical” enough in your own reasoning to see this Dawn..
A real difference of opinion would have a measure of something called “diplomacy” to illustrate the difference in a respectful way..
Saying something like.. “I’m not a big fan of her choice of clothes but I appreciate her beauty..” would do just fine don’t you think?
Instead outright slants of “poor girl” combined with “cheap” and “tacky” betrays an OBVIOUS position of ENVY.
Every heard of somebody asking what was the “tone of the message”?
Now here’s the big point that you always seem to miss or purposely spin in many of your previous posts..
Do you REALLY think that the overall purpose of this blog and it’s photos is to serve as target practice for shallow minded criticisms driven by ENVY?
Do you see a sign secretly taped up on the back of any of these wonderful ladies that says “Kick Me”?
And here’s the really entertaining part..
Do you REALLY think that anyone who reads your’s or Kisha’s comments thinks that either of you are just simply expressing a “difference of opinion”.
Well if you do.. then it’s time to give Roto-Roter a call.. because the stench is really starting to fill up again..
So please Dawn.. do us all a favor.. don’t spin a straight cut down as a “difference of opinion” and try to re-package it as “logical thinking” on your part.
So back to my main point again..
Another serving of Envy anyone?
February 26, 2009 at 10:07 pm
I’ve learned not to kick anyone for trying something different….
She’s trying a different style, something that’s unique to her. If it doesn’t work out, so what….. The first thousand tries to make a lightbulb failed.
BTW, GL, is she single????? 😀
February 26, 2009 at 10:51 pm
I don’t think I would even notice her leggings and nails, not with a beautiful face and ocean blue eyes such as hers. I don’t doubt she makes other women jealous, but that is their problem, not hers. She is definitely a real stunner who would turn heads wherever she goes here in the U.S. However, I wouldn’t play poker with her twice because I would lose my shirt, figuratively of course……..:-)
Taras
February 27, 2009 at 2:59 am
I personally think Katya would LOOK beautiful in anything she wears, probably because Katya IS a beautiful person, and that does not depend on her external garments. At the same time, I am sure Katya would want to dress as to enhance that beauty as much as possible…and I am thankful for that.
But this website is about the appreciation of true beauty, particularly of women from the FSU. They say that a picture is worth a thousand words, and while that may have some truth, it still pales in comparison with an actual fact-to-face meeting. GL does what he can to show us this beauty. But it is up to us to experience it for ourselves.
I sense…that there is a hidden, special beauty there, in both the people AND the place they live. And I also feel that these women are in some way as fascinated with us Westerners as we are with them. The more we learn, the closer we become, and that makes us all better people.
Until the day we meet, and I can return the favor, I will appreciate this beauty as much as possible.
February 27, 2009 at 3:39 am
Bella, I thought you were putting in a plug for my favorite U2 song there for a moment. Next sunny day on the farm(plant ranch), I might crank up “Beautiful Day” on the stereo, hike my Dickie work pants up to my chest so they won’t fall down, and cut the rug a little. Beautiful day, beautiful lady, what the heck, it’s hard to find fault with either gift.
February 27, 2009 at 8:47 am
GL
So I guess your answer to both my questions was ‘I don’t know’.
As I said, “If you can’t answer these two questions, then it’s clear you’re just using ‘envy’ as an empty way of dismissing comments you don’t like.”
Just so we’re clear…
Dawn
February 27, 2009 at 8:53 am
No Dawn,
Just because you choose to ignore the huge white elephant sitting (and stinking up) your living room doesn’t meant that it doesn’t exists..
Another serving of denial anyone???
February 27, 2009 at 12:31 pm
GL
I’ll take that as a compliment… I think you’re just jealous of me 🙂
Dawn
February 27, 2009 at 1:47 pm
GL, after sleeping on my assessment of Dear Katya, and her fashionable ensemble, I am going to up the ante and say she is simply ethereal and her clothes reflect her good sense of style and her youth. I have no doubt that a person could start a world class model(ing) agency with the girls you have pictured in the past 12 months. Give me an ad featuring Elena and Katya in any magazine with a youthful female audience, and I’ll be selling cool hats, boots, leggings, and sexy jackets like hot cakes.:) ….and, if I can succeed in giving all those items of clothing that nice, comfortable, broken-in appearance, I am confident that my sales will multiply all the more. Thanks again for all your efforts.
February 27, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Hi Sam,
That’s an interesting idea for sure 😉
February 27, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Can we see some pictures of Dawn and Kisha so we can judge for ourselves?
February 27, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Mick I think that’s a wonderful idea..
They can dish it out but can they take it themselves?
NOT! 🙂
February 27, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Attention Dawn and Kisha..
We are very much eager to see your latest photos… Please email me what you have and I will be more then happy to post them for all to see.
galacticlove@gmail.com
February 27, 2009 at 5:25 pm
I’m with you, rw_man. There’s enough cattiness in this thread to start a kennel.
February 27, 2009 at 5:35 pm
The last refuge of the desperate men, huh 🙂
You can’t win the argument so you get personal…
February 27, 2009 at 5:54 pm
You’re the expert Dawn. Please show us how it’s done.
February 27, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Certainly, Mick. I’m used to winning arguments.
February 27, 2009 at 6:34 pm
It has been quite entertaining to sit on the sideline drinking my favorite fruit smoothie while watching the whole “dodgeball game” between gentlemen and “envious” and arrogant ladies who throw tirades at the photo of those very fine ladies who have been taking so much of time and work to refine her appearances and her characters…
I think in the best interest of this website that the pictures of the western “uglies” should not be posted here and try to make examples of them for a personal agenda. We want to keep this website classy and constructive.
It’d be the best to tone down and keep ignoring those cheap shots by those trolls. We should keep moving on to focus on the best quality of true feminine ladies with beauty, values, class and characters. That is the number one focus that we need to strive for. Don’t lose this focus.
The last thing we need is giving too much of energy to those trolls who will never “get” the facts at all. They are just the way they are. No matter how much of energy we put, they’d never change at all.
A fellow Internet entrepreneur just reminds me when I went on the journey of building an Internet business. I’ve gotten a share of trolls who kept attacking me personally for what I wrote about my thoughts and my very deep passions about a subject – “If you are willing to keep at it in spite of the attacks and difficulties, it’s a pretty good sign that it means something to you.”
In every journey to something that we truly care about, we’d always face a bunch of obstacles and nonsensical and delusional people who try do do anything they can to destory us and the values that we care about deeply. We can just keep going no matter what it is. The best thing we can is just keep focusing passionately on the values and beauty that we care about so deeply while ignoring those destructive trolls.
That’s my 50 rubles…
BK
February 27, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Agree. I’ll ignore the destructive trolls too. Let’s focus on reasoned conversation.
Dawn
February 27, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Your right BK.. If Dawn or Kisha has the guts to show how superior they are with their personal appearance then I’d be more then happy to put it on a mailing list for interested parties and not foul up a good thing.
February 27, 2009 at 10:59 pm
GL, I sense you tend to mistake every little (and in my opinion reasonable criticism) as envy, because you just choose to ignore that there can be grounds for this criticism.
And the grounds are that the choice of outfit no matter how provocative and sexy it may look doesn’t do pretty Katen’ka any justice it terms of the WAY it looks and how appropriate it is. (was a friendly poker game that usually goes with beer and some not so sexy snacks? Why wear bra reveling jacket that has obviously seen better days for this unimportant occasion? Not to mention that if you do this combination jacket must be very well fitted and not supposed to expose your bra every time you try to move. And I’m no style guru, it’s common knowledge…)
I’d say this kind of outfit is only appropriate for a visit to playboy mansion, to see if Heff needs some (more) help.
Really people, I’ve never seen anyone dressed up like this before. Well maybe years ago on Tverskaya st. ( btw do I have to explain this cultural reality, or has it already drifted into well known sphere? )
Unfortunately, saying something like that ‘I’m not a big fan of her choice of clothes but I appreciate her beauty..’ was not possible then because I was *bewitched* by resemblance of this outfit to what you may see on you know who…I really tried but couldn’t see the beauty (that must have been the curse of the crystal scull on the boot..jk) ..and I’m afraid most Russian men and women would also found hard to do so. I just wonder how other people reacted on it when they saw it? Has any elderly lady shaken her head disapprovingly, have men blinked and stared, taken aback by what they’d just seen, has anyone giggled or they were too full envy? Because the reactions I give you are usual for Russian society.
And GL, tone is a quite fickle substance especially if you deal not with your native language. Like I do atmo.
In this case I better correct myself and say ‘Poor girl she’s pretty but doesn’t choose her clothes with intelligence so she may seem something she’s actually not to people when they first meet her.’
So I don’t think everything written above sounds a bit like envy because I really have no reasons to have these feelings you impute me with. Really.
As for other insinuations and that ABSOLUTELY ridiculous idea to send you my photos I will have to turn it down because of my very natural trait of privacy. However, I can assure you that I don’t have any pics in outfits like above, which automatically should leave them out of ones of your interest.
Moreover I cannot understand what my (or anyone else pictures) have to do with my opinions and thoughts. You having my picture or not won’t make the points I’m making more or less valid.
PS
And for people who didn’t get it yet : I AM Russian. Through and Through.
Kind Regards,
Kisha
December 17, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Don’t know where to start.
First, I’m sure Kisha is NOT Russian or not a pretty one or she doesn’t live there anymore. Otherwise she would know that style and dress code in Russia is very different from US for beautiful women. When there is a lot of gorgeous ladies around you in order to stand out Russian ladies do dress sexier than their American counterparts (see point #2). The goal here not reveal everything, but to show your personality. On the other note, beautiful Russian ladies love to dress up (they have something to show after all) and Katya was dress for the occasion, according to her age. I can see she put a thought into her ensemble. Blond hair looks great on black, less makeup, but great manicure – she is playing cards and people will notice her hands, high heels to accentuate her great legs, same color though to make them look longer, little sparkle in the scarf, but not too much, so not to take attention from her face, bare skin under the jacket – well, she did win the poker game. 😉
Second, when I’ve moved to US at the age of twenty I’ve struggled (and still do 9 years later) with the whole “dress” issue. I strongly believe that Americans afraid of their sexuality and their own bodies. Loose t-shirt and baggy pants are a norm. If you dress has a good cut, fit you perfectly , shows your personality/mood, and actually lets your femininity and sexuality to shine – is a mortal sin here. “You are trying to get men’s attention – how dare you?”On the opposite end, when American ladies try to attract the guy, it’s the aggressive low cut, glitter all over, no style, over the top, bad fitting thing. Speaking of tacky. Katya’s outfit was balanced enough not be tacky, but very sexy. Unless Kisha afraid of sexy and it’s tacky in her opinion. (Still wonder if Kisha is Russian, I’ve never heard of such Russian name)
Personally, I had to adjust the dressing to the American culture and still remain true to myself. Maybe less sexy by Russian standards (less cut outs in my dresses, less lace and see through blouses. Miss them all. Oh well, I’ll just wear them at home for my significant other 😉 ), but still always get compliments from guys on my style and it doesn’t require “tacky” tactics to get attention. Good fit and cut, clean clothes even if it’s old ( I still wear my favorite dresses since high school and they look great), color/shape coordination, big smile – that’s all it takes.
December 18, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Wonderful comments on clothing and style. You are clearly one who understand such things.
May I ask why you decided to move to the US and what part of the country you live in?
I have known many models living in the Seattle area and also other regions, and when they wear very stylish clothes for a casual day out, some of them are snickered at or taunted by other women who are usually about the same age but definately not at all dressed for public places. I still think that petty jealousy is the strongest emotion for these doom sayers.
The average NA woman in her mid 20s to mid 30s leaves the house looking like they have just finished cleaning out someone’s storage container. The 30 to 40 year old mothers at my daughter’s elementary school dress better just to drop off or pick up their children.
December 21, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Dear me this thread is about one year old!
Dear Evushka, you can be SURE but that still doesn’t make you Right. I neither reside outside Russia nor there’s something wrong with my appearance. I was not aware there was a particular style and dress code for beautiful Russian women. It would be extreemely educational for me if you could elaborate on that matter. Maybe it has massively changed since you left? It was 9 years ago if I’m not mistaken. We’ve got this makeover/makeunder programme on tv called Modnij prigovor and thats what Slava Zaićev says : Любая женщина в любом возрасте не имеет права оголять живот – это вульгарно и некрасиво, даже если вы обладательница идеального пресса. And Evushka you’d be surprised to know that sexy doesn’t sell anymore.
December 21, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Richard, thank you for your comments and compliments. You have asked me why I decided to move to US. It was an easy decision since I wanted to be with my husband who was an American and he wouldn’t live in Russia. Unfortunately 6 years later we’ve divorced (I’m one of those casualties of international marriages) and I had to make a decision to stay in Chicago or to return to Moscow. Since after all these years I was so much rooted in US and had a great paying job (I’m a software engineer) it would be difficult for me to change all things back and move to Russia. I don’t feel taunted by American women since I’ve removed them from my daily live except few very close American friends who are in their forties and fifties (for some reason we have a great rapport). I don’t need that negative energy in my life (I guess I do the same as most guys on this blog). When I’ve moved to US women of my ex-family didn’t accept me as a new family member. And since they couldn’t taunt my dress choices (I always try to dress nicely and appropriate) , they instead attacked my character labeling me as vain, shallow and self-centered for trying always look good for my ex. It was difficult not to lose my identity in order to please their demands which would be wrong in the first place. This blog caught my attention as I love to read those success stories of international marriages and it gives me hope that American and Russian cultures can successfully coexist. Guys here ask all the right questions and author of the blog gives an interesting perspective of the Russian culture and character. I don’t always agree, some things make me laugh (in a good humor way), but most importantly this blog shows how Americans see us. It’s been very entertaining and educational. Happy Holiday Season. Evushka
December 21, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Evushka,
I can’t tell you how much it saddens me to hear your story. The pressure of conforming to the family expectations of your ex-husband and all of their small minded beliefs obviously played a huge part in the marriage not working out. It shows me that as a whole, his family would probably have never been supportive of you no matter how many changes you might have made for them. And you are absolutely right in saying that this would have been wrong to do for them, anyhow. God even tells us ‘to ourselves we must be true’.
Since I grew up in that region of the US, I can tell you that it might be the most difficult area to find acceptance. Even though many Midwestern people are very down to earth and basically open and honest, they are also very reluctant to change anything. If you were from any other country you would have faced the exact same challenge in my opinion. The good news for most people that immigrate to that part of the country is that once you establish yourself and begin to develop meaningful relationships there, it seems as though those same people will become some of the strongest allies you could have.
I had to deal with much of the same thing being married to a French-Canadian. Her family looked down on me because I didn’t immediately fall into their theory that they were an oppressed minority group of some kind. The French-Canadians are quite proud but still play the victim much of the time. Whenever we were in Quebec I was the ‘puppy on a leash’ to most of my ex-wife’s friends. I was a novelty for a while but only because I was well off financially and that is a huge deal in that region. But as soon as people there realized I wasn’t walking around passing out hundred dollar bills, my sparkle wore off quickly and then most conversation around me were in French, which is actually considered a strong insult. At the same time there were only a small number of very close friends that embraced my new bride and I think that was mostly because they were simply happy that I felt happy. My family was more accepting than most would be but it was a guarded acceptance because her style was so different from their old standby way of life. In a way I was luckier in that regard because all of my family has known me to be a bit of a rebel in everything else, so leaving our tiny parcel of the world to find a wife was less of a surprise for them.
I have to tell you that I am not surprised to hear that most of your close friends are in their 40s and 50s. For some reason, especially in the Midwest, the time that people start to awaken to the real joys of adult friendships is after they have mostly ‘done the family thing’. When I was hit my 20s living in Southern Wisconsin I dated women in their mid thirties to early forties and our social circles included their friends rather than mine. It was of much greater value to me having intelligent conversations with mature minded people. Now that I am in my mid fifties most of my friends are in their 30s and 40s because we have children around the same age. The vast majority of North Americans in their 20s are looking for the next party and subsequent hang over while most of the people my age want to sit around talking about their grandchildren and the good old days. I think you are fortunate to have a network of friends that have past the ‘party hardy, Marty’ stage yet still know how to have fun. Hopefully your core values and personal dreams were not too badly damaged by the short marriage and disrespectful way you were treated upon moving here.
It seems that you have kept a pretty good perspective on all of this and I applaud you for that. I appreciate you being so open about everything. I think that your experience can be very helpful for everyone here. And I also share your hope for the mixing of our cultures. It is actually quite exciting for me to think that some of us may be on the verge of changing the direction of our social development.
Thank you for your reply and best wishes for a safe and happy Holiday Season. Warm thoughts and blessings to you,
Richard
February 28, 2009 at 12:07 am
I didn’t even notice Katya’s clothes. I was too busy admiring the beautiful girl wearing them.
The shallow minds of Western Women are disgusting. Who cares about what they think anymore?
February 28, 2009 at 7:09 am
Kisha,
Your quotes are below..
“GL, I sense you tend to mistake every little (and in my opinion reasonable criticism) as envy, because you just choose to ignore that there can be grounds for this criticism.”
Just because our resident stone thrower Dawn here likes to spin things (and quickly get shot down in flames trying to do so) doesn’t mean that you should also copy a LOSING strategy..
“And the grounds are that the choice of outfit no matter how provocative and sexy it may look doesn’t do pretty Katen’ka any justice it terms of the WAY it looks and how appropriate it is. (was a friendly poker game that usually goes with beer and some not so sexy snacks? Why wear bra reveling jacket that has obviously seen better days for this unimportant occasion? Not to mention that if you do this combination jacket must be very well fitted and not supposed to expose your bra every time you try to move. And I’m no style guru, it’s common knowledge…)”
You are right Kisha you are not a style guru.. but unfortunately you don’t seem to have any common sense in fashion either..
Our lovely Miss Masha (who is also proudly Russian just like you) has sounded in and has said that your criticisms are in her words..
“Eta OCHE Glupa”
Translation: “This is VERY stupid”
I think Masha has a great deal of credibility in this department..
First off UNLIKE YOU she’s more then willing to have her photo taken and shared in a public forum like this.
Second.. Well if you look at her many incredible images.. I don’t think I need to say anymore.. She looks simply awesome just like Katya does.. So yes I’d say they know how to present themselves beautifully and I for one certainly appreciate the effort I see in them to do just that.
“Really people, I’ve never seen anyone dressed up like this before. Well maybe years ago on Tverskaya st. ( btw do I have to explain this cultural reality, or has it already drifted into well known sphere? )”
Tverskaya Street in Moscow?
Please Kisha.. if you are going to try to say that Katya looks like a hooker then you are WAY out of line.
Saying that another girl looks like a prostitute (especially when she doesn’t by the way) is a universal way to show your JEALOUSY..
I’m sure that every man here has heard that exact inuendo from one jealous woman levled at another many many times..
So congratulations Kisha.. you can’t even try to write a semi-straight commentary without EXPOSING your own insecurities and true agenda..
“..and I’m afraid most Russian men and women would also found hard to do so. I just wonder how other people reacted on it when they saw it? … Because the reactions I give you are usual for Russian society.”
Kisha.. do you have any idea how many beautiful Russian Women I know because of my work with this site?
Do you know how many of them I am in communication with regularly?
Do you know how many of them watch this site just like you and looked at Katya’s photos like Masha and also Jenya (who also has her photos on my site under “Sexiest Engineer”) think that you are as they say…
“Sterva..”
Translation: A Stupid Jealous Woman..
Also Kisha these wonderful Russian girls LAUGH at you when you try to represent ALL Russian People with your ARROGANT comments about “how russian you are” so therefore your opinon reigns supreme.. Oh the irony..
Every RUSSIAN girl I have talked to LOVES these latest photos of Katya and her image..
So Kisha you really are the STRANGE one out on this subject I’d say..
“And GL, tone is a quite fickle substance especially if you deal not with your native language. Like I do atmo…..
So I don’t think everything written above sounds a bit like envy because I really have no reasons to have these feelings you impute me with. Really.”
Masha and Jenya read your comment and immediately tagged you as “Sterva”…
So to say that I’m wrong in interpreting your jealous “tone” is a very sad attempt to cover up your original offense..
So of course you are too ashamed to admit saying something stupid so quite predictably you have to dig a deeper hole for yourself and DENY it.. Oh how predictable Kisha..
“As for other insinuations and that ABSOLUTELY ridiculous idea to send you my photos I will have to turn it down because of my very natural trait of privacy. However, I can assure you that I don’t have any pics in outfits like above, which automatically should leave them out of ones of your interest. Moreover I cannot understand what my (or anyone else pictures) have to do with my opinions and thoughts. You having my picture or not won’t make the points I’m making more or less valid.”
Kisha… I’m sorry but you are a TOTAL Hypocrite..
You want to stand off at a safe distance and throw stones at women that I personally know to be very good while trying to hide yourself.. You should be ashamed of yourself.
“And for people who didn’t get it yet : I AM Russian. Through and Through.”
Masha and Jenya are hanging out in my place as I type this..
I just told them what you said about being RUSSIAN..
They are laughing in the background and saying “stupid” and telling me to ignore you..
Pretty good advice I’d say.. but I already typed this up so oh well…
I’ll just end with this.. Kisha.. show your photos and prove to the world how much of an expert you are as you imply with your criticisms..
Or just simply go away and find something else to be jealous about..
American Translation: Put up or shut up..
GL
February 28, 2009 at 9:53 am
GL, you are being very silly. What Kisha looks like does not make her logic right or wrong. Besides, if she sent a hot photo you’d just say it wasn’t really her. So she can’t win on your juvenile competition, and she’s sensible not to participate.
February 28, 2009 at 9:55 am
Also — this is a genuinely curious question:
GL, if you say that the girl doesn’t look like a hooker, then how do Russian hookers distinguish themselves from the general population? What do they wear? How much more do they have to take off???
(honestly not stirring with this question, although i would understand if you didn’t believe me!)
February 28, 2009 at 10:35 am
Laugh..
In answer to your last question about hookers.. Why don’t you and Kisha send in photos for all of us to find out?? 😉
(You got to love it when people set themselves up for stuff like this.. especially when they feign sincerity and continue to deny that they are hypocrites)
Photos Dawn??
February 28, 2009 at 10:52 am
God I can’t resist.. you are making this too easy Dawn..
“Besides, if she sent a hot photo you’d just say it wasn’t really her.”
So Dawn given what you are saying above it sure sounds like you yourself don’t believe that Kisha is very attractive..
Of course you wish to project your own self doubt onto me instead to mask your own impressions..
But doesn’t that send a clear message here??
The more either of you resist sending photos while at the same time criticizing others the more doubt it sows with all of us about your credibility and your overall attractiveness now doesn’t it??
And that is obviously why you have doubts about Kisha’s appearance yourself..
Hmm.. now we have even more reason to see photos from the two of you to find out now don’t we??
Maybe it’s time for you to go retreat back into the dog house and lick your wounds.. because your not scoring very well here tonight.. 😉
Photos Dawn??
February 28, 2009 at 10:53 am
GL, your posts have now started to lack any sense whatsoever… how would seeing a photo of me answer my question about Russian hookers??
February 28, 2009 at 10:56 am
” how would seeing a photo of me answer my question about Russian hookers??”
ROTFL!!!
February 28, 2009 at 11:06 am
…?
February 28, 2009 at 11:55 am
Good morning to you, GL
What you’ve just shown is that you didn’t understand anything of what I was talking about in my post.
1) I wasn’t criticizing Katya herself, but her outfit. I actually think she’s quite pretty, nice hair and eyes. So tell me what I’m envious of? The clothes I think look vulgar? Makes no sense, I’m sorry.
2) “Eta OCHE Glupa”
Translation: “This is VERY stupid”
(translation is definately needed because “it is very stupid” in Russian would be “EtO ocheN glupO” but it’s a bit beside the point) What is stupid, to have an opinion of yor own and don’t join a choir of praising voices?
3) Trying to make me look like the odd representative of Russian society wouldn’t work here because, I can’t see any other Russians apart from myself commenting here.(No no I don’t encourage you to bring your biased friends of Katya to this discussion) So you just throw *Every RUSSIAN girl I have talked to LOVES the latest photos of Katya and her image* at me as if it’s ultimate in truth. It is not.
What if I post few of photos of Katya to some Russian boards to see if they would be seen only positevely and loved by Everyone? How about that? Hopefully Masha and Jenja will translate for you, cos from what I see your knowledge of Russian is quite limited…
5)The last thing. GL, stickin’ to personal insults is a VERY POOR SHOW. Meanwhile I commented on the photos of Katya the way I did( which I do not regret and still think the outfit is vulgar) you called me jealous, stupid, a hypocrite and a bitch. Yes, A BITCH, because the only ADEQUATE translation of the word Sterva = Bitch. Sterva has nothing to do with jealousy or stupidity. I suggest you open a dictionary of slang and see for yourself. As for tagging someone you don’t know as ‘Bitch’, well what can I say it’s extreemely nice of such fair classy ladies as Masha and Jenya. Let along tagging itself is far from good manners.
I’m not gonna raise to the bait and post my photos for you ppl to see, that would be very self-conscious of me don’t you think? I don’t need anything to prove to this world, you see. And this whole thing “Oh post your photos and only then you may say something” sound somewhat like a daft scholl bullying to me. It is your decision to post pictures of girls here and you can’t expect only positive comments cos tastes differ, Mister. I think it would be fair to ask for pictures of everyone who has commented here (including your own ;-)) and then hold a little beauty contest that you will most sertainly enjoy =).
P.S.
I appologize for my grammar&spelling mistakes if any, cos this was wtitten in a rush, and as I stated many times before, English is not my native language and I haven’t majored it’s stylistics yet. =)
Regards,
Kisha
February 28, 2009 at 12:03 pm
oh… missed the point number 4…don’t know it happened.
February 28, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Well done Kisha — very clear, restrained and intelligent post.
I think your suggestion of posting the above photos on a real Russian site is intriguing. Would be very interesting to know what a sample of Russians think.
February 28, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Kisha..
Quit lying to everybody..
1. If you are going to imply that Katya looks like a harlot like your comment below then I’d say you have pretty envious or evil will toward the girl especially if you don’t know her.
“Really people, I’ve never seen anyone dressed up like this before. Well maybe years ago on Tverskaya st. “
2. Eta OCHE Glupa.. “This is very stupid..” Indeed your tone on your first comment and on the accusation that you think that Katya looks like a lady of the night is indeed quite stupid indeed.
3. Look harder Kisha. Although they might not frequent this site as much as you they are out there. But while you are doing that you can’t stop pretending that because you are Russian that you are the authority on Russian opinons.. I have news for you.. There’s about 148 million of you in Russia alone and you all have different opinions..
So announcing that you are Russian to try to gain justification for a cut down against another Russian Girl you don’t know..
Doesn’t cut it..
4. Just like in English a word like “Sterva” can take on different meanings depending on how it is said. In the way it was used above.. It truly means stupid woman with bad character and that of course can be interpreted as “jealous” depending on the context of the conversation. In that regard it’s not considered a curse word as you have mislabeled and spun it.
If anyone wanted to curse you and call you a bitch even I know that they would’ve just gotten straight to the point and called you “Suka”instead.
I don’t see that word “Suka” being used here so please don’t take your spin lessons from Dawn and try to recharcterize something.
Now my turn Kisha..
As we say in America.. Put your money where your mouth is..
You obviously want to have a big mouth and criticize attractive women in the most transparently stupid ways out there.
Jesus may have said something to the effect of..
“Let the man who has no sin be the first to cast a stone..”
But I’m going to say..
If you think you are such an expert on fashion or apperance and you want to criticize a very sweet girl that I took photos of..
Show your photos first..
If not then just be honest with yourself and understand that you are acting like a little jealous hypocrite.
If you have the “Big Mouth” to make comments that you did about another girl.. then lets see if you have the guts to back that big mouth up.. if not then you are nothing but a cheap fool and NOBODY will take you seriously.
So Kisha.. grow up.. and stop trying to hide the fact that your just COMPLETELY stuck your foot in your mouth and continue to do so..
Dawn.. trying to jump into Kisha’s corner after you just got seriously “pwned” by me doesn’t do a thing to clean up the fact that you STILL look foolish and catty..
I suggest you continue to lick your wounds in silence instead of telling Kisha.. “yeah you go girl!” Desperation in a time of defeat always smells bad.. and you are certainly no exception to that.
Photos Girls??
February 28, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Kisha,
Though I respect your opinions and your heritage, I jumped into this because I felt your comments were disrespectful, and hurtful. In the comments above there has been a good deal of discussion about the meaning and use of words. In its common usage here in the States the word tacky means or implies the following: characterized by lack of good breeding, a common, poor(implied white) and untidy person,shabby, seedy,marked by lack of style or good taste, marked by cheap showiness, and vulgarly or cheaply showy. In short, tacky is a powerful word. When a person uses it in my profession, it implies that he/she is a person of superior taste, and it is considered to be harshly and personally critical. So, though, I strongly encourage you to voice your opinions, I resent such personal and hurtful criticism of a young woman that is a member of a group that we are celebrating on this site. I might add that I know little about the normal attire of women less than half my age that live in foreign lands. I do observe what young women are wearing here in the States, and I clearly know what is customary. Tops that allow for serious exposure of a woman’s breasts, and midsection are commonplace. Katya’s jacket and the exposure it allows would be considered modest here.
Secondly, I don’t know anything about Katya’s economic condition. But whether she is rich, poor or in between, I think it is unfair to criticise the age or condition of her attire. I fiercely resent it, and it angers me greatly. Years ago, when I was a smart ass schoolboy, I had the audacity to laugh at the aged hand-me-downs worn by a sweet girl of modest means. It hurt her deeply. I have never felt more remorse over anything else I have done, and if I could find Hilda, I would beg her for forgiveness.
I am through. I have said enough in this thread. Kisha, I mean no harm, but please consider what you say. Thanks.
February 28, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Sam I can validate what you are saying..
Katya is proud, hard working, and very very sweet. I know enough of her background where I can say that she comes from very modest means.
You meet special girls like this and as a man you naturally want to assist or protect them any way you can.
So when malicious comments usually driven by envy are directed at them certain protective instincts start to take over to defend a lady’s honor.
Most of the girls who have their photos on this site try to read what’s being posted. So it’s pretty important for me to let them know that they have some people backing them up who also truly appreciating their efforts and their beauty no matter what the naysayers say.
February 28, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Dawn,
In answer to your repeated demands, a comment is probably not the result of envy if it is specifically relevant to the subject being presented, and not needlessly hurtful.
Instead of just babbling about logic, perhaps you should try using it.
Katya was not submitting those pictures as part of an application for employment at a fashion magazine. It is obvious that inadequate and jealous women are trying to belittle her instead of concentrating on fixing themselves.
Since you lack common sense, let me give you a simple guideline: you are being envious when what you are doing is like proclaiming that Einstein’s socks don’t match.
Hi Katya,
You are an amazingly gorgeous woman, and your clothes accentuate your beauty, so you do indeed have great taste and style.
I have no idea if what you are wearing is fashionable, and I really don’t care. Trends cycle between old and new, but none of that is important.
And if you are of modest means, then you are even more impressive, and real men would be very protective of a treasure like you.
As you have seen, empty and nasty women know the price of everything but the value of nothing, and that is one reason why men like me are on this site.
I first noticed your bewitching eyes, and the sweet smile that holds the promise of a beautiful spirit, which is all that truly matters.
The rest is absolutely stunning too, and none of the criticisms from the jealous women would ever occur to a man.
Hi GL,
I know that the silver in photographic emulsions prevented vampires from being photographed. But can images of Dawn and Kisha now be captured using a digital camera?
February 28, 2009 at 6:18 pm
ha ha – GL, I’m not sure what ‘pwned’ means (is it welsh?) but if you think you coped here
then I’d hate to see what it looks like when you know you are out of your depth…
Seriously though, am still interested in answers to my questions, when you can think of one.
February 28, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Sam,
I don’t think anything said yet in this thread is more clear and fair than your last post. I often wish that everyone would be this diplomatic and sincere. While I agree with you one hundred percent I am still at a loss to understand Kisha and Dawn acting so vile and sounding so unintelligent regarding fashion and social conditions.
Kisha and Dawn,
You know that I have agreed with some of your past posts and have been fair in my responses to most of what you have said. What I don’t get here is this arrogant, shameless and completely unfair attack on this girl’s choice of clothing for a photo session and apparently her character in the process.
For both of you, ‘where the hell have you been’?
I am a professional photographer and part time journalist. I say that not to attempt to put on some air of superiority but because I have made a living selling my images and commentaries over the years. I have photographed hundreds of women and in hundreds of situations from designer premiers to alleyways and street corners. At 7am today I was taking pictures of 3 female models covered in fur standing by frozen fruit trees.
That said, I must ask, who are you to judge a person for picking clothes to be photographed in? Seriously? Are either of you formerly or currently fashion designers, fashion consultants or in any way affiliated with the fashion industry? Certainly if you were you would be much more objective and not nearly as critical. Fashion is a statement and I have never heard a truly professional comment that sounded anything like what the two of you have said. In fact the ONLY times I have ever heard this kind of debasing rhetoric and the defiant defense of such statements has been by women who were so jealous of the other lady that they were simply unable to say anything positive. So still I ask, who do you think you are? What’s more, at this point, who do you think cares?
Further, I am curious about the tone of this conversation regarding Katya’s ensemble getting anywhere near that of a hooker. It is blatantly obvious that neither of you have EVER seen a prostitute. I have interviewed and photographed prostitutes in various cities and countries and not one has ever looked like this. NOT ONE! From a common $20 quickie worker on a dark street corner to a $2500 an hour preferred customer call girl, no ‘working girl’ I have ever seen looks anything like this.
This outfit is so “not” garish that it should have only received compliments or at the very least questions about individual pieces. The tights and high heel boots were made for each other and are complimented by the wide belt. Braless with the heavy shirt/light jacket look is already common even in the parochial, mid-America and having it open a couple of buttons down from the top while exposing the midriff is more everyday than either of you apparently know. I think the braided ‘scarf-like’ accent is perfect as it adds a little light and flow. Her sleeves pushed/rolled up to the middle of the forearm add to the overall look and for God’s sake she even has the appropriate jewelry to set it all off. To be honest, the only distraction from the look is her nails and really that is not a mistake or a problem. They are beautifully done but are merely in contrast to the rest of her look.
All black is a statement of its own and how black is done can be a separate and equally powerful statement as well. Accessorizing is more important when staying with one color and simple is generally best. Katya has a plain looking silver ring, another with a dark stone to accent the clothes and a simple gold cross on a lightweight chain around her neck which delicately draws the eye to her open collar.
Her look is powerful and unapologetic and Katya gets my vote of approval for pushing the boundaries of daily fashion without insulting any accepted norms or lowering her personal character in any way. All beautiful young women should be so confident.
To summarize, it is my ‘professional’ opinion that any woman who finds this look offensive in any way is simply feeling threatened by someone younger, prettier, or more stylish than themselves. It is no harsh generalization on GL’s part to consider the comments and subsequent defensive banter by Dawn and Kisha to be nothing more than jealousy. I can’t think of any more likely reason for what those two have said here. It is almost always the case that the envious try to discredit the more attractive, the more talented or the more successful. But the key point to remember in all of this recent thread has been somehow overlooked, and that is the reason for a site like this to exist in the first place. That reason, as I understand it, is because western women and the westernization of other women throughout the world have left NA men desperate to find a life partner with self respect and dignity. The initial statements and follow up commentary by two women over the past 48 hours only validates the point. It is the continuous ‘stinking thinking’ of modern women that make a site like GL thrive. What man in his right mind would want to be with a women who only complains, condemns and criticizes? My mother used to say, “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything”.
Kisha, “Oh my now this is seriously tacky. The jacket and the leggins are so cheap and worn out (you don’t even need to zoom in to see this) and the boots oh well…”
Dawn, “Got to agree w Kisha though – horrible clothes and nails.”
These statements started the whole thing and these statements are immature, offensive and born of nothing but pure jealousy. Neither statement is constructive criticism, and neither statement is a simple disagreement on style. This is modern feminine mentality at its worst. You have both lost any credibility you might have had or ever hoped to have by speaking from a point of view which exemplifies ignorance of the world around you.
Katya, I would photograph you any day, on any continent, and in any clothing you choose. You are a stunningly attractive young woman with a powerful sense of self worth. I applaud you on your style and confidence. Never listen to those who sit in judgment or envy when they wave their arms or their tongues. Walk in front of the crowd, not among them, and with your head high.
February 28, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Сэм, Я не думаю сказанное что-нибыдь но в этой резьбе ясне и справедлив чем ваш последний столб. Я часто желаю что каждое было эти дипломатическими и задушевно. Пока я соглашаюсь с вами 100 процентов я все еще на потере для того чтобы понять Kisha и рассветать действующ настолько подл и звучающ настолько unintelligent относительно способа и социальных условий. Kisha и рассвет, Вы знаете что я соглашался с некоторыми из ваших прошлых столбов и справедливы в моих реакциях к большому части из чего вы говорили. Что я не получаю здесь это заносчивое, беззастенчивое и вполне шестякиное нападение на выборе этой девушки одежды для встречи фото и по-видимому ее характера в процессе. Для обоих из вас, `где имейте вас been’? Я профессиональный фотограф и по совместительству журналист. Я говорю то для того чтобы не попытать положить дальше некоторый воздух превосходства но потому что я делал прожитие продавая мои изображения и комментарии над летами. Я фотографировал сотниы женщин и в сотниах ситуаций от premiers конструктора к проходам и углам улицы. На 7am сегодня я фотографировал 3 женских модели предусматриванной в шерсти готовя, котор замерли фруктовые дерев дерев. Т говорить, я должен спросить, который вы для того чтобы судить персону для одежд рудоразборки быть сфотографированным внутри? Серьезно? Или вас в прошлом или в настоящее время модельеры, консультанты способа или в любом случае принимано в члены с индустрией способа? Определенно если вы были, то вы были бы очень объективне и не почти как критическо. Способ заявление и я никогда не слышал поистине профессиональный комментарий который звучал что-нибыдь как чего 2 из вас говорили. В действительности ЕДИНСТВЕННЫЕ времена я всегда слышал что этот вид унижая риторики и вызывающей обороны таких заявлений женщинами которые были настолько ревнивы другой повелительницы что они были просто неспособны сказать что-нибыдь положительное. Настолько все еще я спрашиваю, которому вы думаете вы? Что больше, на этой стадии, которое вы думает внимательности? Более потом, я любознательон о тоне этого переговора относительно ансамбля Katya получая везде около того из рыболовного судна. Оно крикливо очевиден что ни то из вас ВСЕГДА видели проститутку. Я интервьюировал и сфотографированные проститутки в различных городах и странах и не одно всегда смотрели как это. НЕ ОДНО! От работника quickie общего $20 на темном угле улицы до $2500 час предпочл девушку звонка клиента, никакое girl `работая я всегда видел взгляды что-нибудь подобное. Это обмундирование настолько «не» показной которое оно должно только получить compliments или по крайней мере спрашивает о индивидуальных частях. Колготки и ботинки высокой пятки были сделаны для одина другого и complimented широким поясом. Braless с тяжелой рубашкой/светлым взглядом куртки уже общее даже в приходском, средний-Америка и иметь его раскрыть несколько кнопки вниз от верхней части пока подвергать действию midriff более ежедневный чем то из вас по-видимому знает. Я думаю что заплетенный акцент шарфа-like’ `совершенн по мере того как он добавляет меньшие свет и подачу. Она втулки нажало/свернуто до середины предплечья добавляет к общему взгляду и для ради Бог она даже имеет соотвествующие ювелирные изделия, котор нужно установить его все. Для того чтобы быть честно, единственное отвечение от взгляда ее ногти и действительно то нет ошибки или проблемы. Они красивейше сделаны но просто в отличие от остальноев ее взгляда. Совсем чернота заявление своих и как чернота сделана может быть отдельно и поровну мощным заявлением также. Accessorizing важне когда оставаться с одним цветом и просто вообще само лучше. Katya имеет простое смотря серебряное кольцо, другое с темным камнем для того чтобы accent одежды и просто крест золота на облегченной цепи вокруг ее шеи которая чувствительно рисует глаз к ее открытому вороту. Ее взгляд мощн и не приносящий извинения и Katya получает мой вотум утверждения для нажимать границы ежедневного способа без оскорблять все принятые нормы или понижать ее личный характер в любом случае. Все красивейшие молодые женщины должны быть настолько уверенно. Для того чтобы суммировать, мое мнение professional `что любая женщина которая находит эта оффензива взгляда в любом случае просто чувствующ угрожает кто-то сами более молодым, более милым, или более стильным чем. Никакое жестковатое обобщение на части GL для рассмотрения комментариев и последующих защитительных шуток Рассветом и Kisha быть ничего больше чем ревность. Я не могу думать больше правоподобной причины для чего те 2 говорили здесь. Это почти всегда случай который завистливая попытка для того чтобы оскандалить привлекательное, талантливое или успешную. Но узловой пункт, котор нужно вспомнить в всей из этой недавней резьбы которая как-то были обозреваны, и которая причина для места как это существовать во-первых. Что причина, по мере того как я понимаю ее, потому что западные женщины и westernization других женщин повсеместно в мир выходили люди NA отчаянной для того чтобы найти соучастник жизни с уважением и саном собственной личности. Начальные заявления и комментарий прослеживания 2 женщинами над прошлыми 48 часами только утверждают пункт. Thinking непрерывного `воняя самомоднейших женщин которые делают место как GL преуспевют. Какой человек в его здравом уме хотел бы быть с женщинами которое только жалуется, судится и рецензируется? Моя мать используемая для того чтобы сказать, «если вы не имеете что-нибыдь славное для того чтобы сказать, то не говорит что-нибыдь». Kisha, «Oh мо теперь это серьезно потрёпанный. Куртка и leggins поэтому дешево и несено вне (вам даже не нужно просигналить внутри для того чтобы увидеть это) и ботинки oh хорошие…» Получили, что согласился рассвет, «w Kisha однако – ужасные одежды и ногти.» Эти заявления начали целую вещь и эти заявления неполовозрелы, одиозны и рождены ничего но чисто ревности. Никакое заявление нет конструктивной критики, и никакое заявление нет просто рассогласования на типе. Это самомоднейшая женственная ментальность на свое самом плохом. Вы оба теряли любому правдоподобию вы могли иметь или всегда надеяться иметь путем говорить от точки зрения которая приводит незнание в пример мира вокруг вас. Katya, я сфотографировал бы вас любой день, на любом материке, и в любой одежде вы выбираете. Вы сногсшибательн привлекательная молодая женщина с мощным чувством стоимости собственной личности. Я аплодирую вам на ваших типе и доверии. Никогда не слушайте к тем которые сидят в завистливости когда они развевают их рукоятки или их языки. Погуляйте перед толпой, не среди их, и с вашей головкой высоко.
February 28, 2009 at 6:53 pm
rw_man,
I don’t know if the translation program I have used is up to date or if it conveys the full meaning but hopefully the girls can get the idea of what I said in that last post. It is just the full previous post dropped into a generic English to Russian program.
Let me know how it comes through for them.
February 28, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Congratulations Dawn… photos aside… you’ve successfully validated my resolve to seek a mate elsewhere. Great job.
February 28, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Seriously, who could stand to be married to this?
February 28, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Mick
Rest assured that there is almost zero chance of someone like you ending up married to someone like me. I understand this comes as a relief to both of us.
Dawn
February 28, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Richard – thanks for your post, thoughtful as always. I almost name-checked you earlier as I was curious to hear your take, but decided you would log in and comment in your own time.
I do not have time to reply properly now but will later.
Dawn
February 28, 2009 at 8:04 pm
rw_man,
I guess the advantage, or disadvantage of the internet is that it opens our front door to the whole world. I think it is a great idea to challenge someone to post their own image as a point of reference. While neither Dawn nor Kisha wish to ‘stoop’ to that level so that we might see their fashion sense, it doesn’t matter anyhow. They would not likely show their own pictures or they would go to some unrealistic extreme to show a side of themselves the rest of the world would not normally see. It would be great to know either of them well enough to see what they might pick for a photo session understanding that the images would be available to the world.
February 28, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Thanks for the post Richard.. I certainly learned a few things about fashion from it 🙂
Personally it would be great to watch how you approach a shoot like this because I’ve really never had the opportunity to work with another seasoned photographer.
One of these days I suspect (and hope) that we might be able to do a tag team shooting session.
February 28, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Dawn,
Looking forward to your thoughts. I really am at a loss for understanding this entire thread.
I think I am as plain, white bread, vanilla ice cream, average, middle ground as a guy can get. My life is the epitome of nondescript. Still, I can not recall the last time I saw some very handsome young man dressed in a way that I could never pull off in a million years, and had my first thought come up as he was cheap or ‘trampish’.
When I see a young man on the street and my first impression is that he looks like a Chip ‘n’ Dale dancer, I don’t think of him as some gigolo. I just wonder why God never let me look that good.
You must admit that women are much more likely to react that way towards each other than men would be. For us guys to see a woman making comments like those posted earlier is just so ‘every day’ now. It is what we are used to hearing all of the time these days from women who don’t take good care of their own appearance and then consequently run down others who do. You’ve gotta’ understand that most men today see a woman who would subject herself to the critiques of everyone in the world via this site as someone who probably cares enough about herself to make an effort. Before a guy would be critical of this he would first simply take her gesture at face value; wow, pretty girl, sexy clothes, is she single, etc.
The reason men take offense to derogatory comments about these images is that you have now just added yourself to the murmur of the masses. We are tired of hearing cheap insults veiled as criticism. The more functional response might be to ask about the intent of someone’s attire or to suggest that a lovely, young woman might present a better image by dressing more conservatively, but even that is just an opinion. But the implication that this girl is either poor in the economic sense or ‘poor girl’ as if she is somehow unenlightened is simply insulting and uncalled for to my way of thinking.
I’m a few days from turning 56 and I see the world from a perspective of having already had my day and now must give ground to different ways of doing things. There is so much going on now that I don’t agree with but in all honesty I have had my chance to change the world and now it’s your turn. I would advise against the direction we are going in now as it lacks personal dignity and respect for others. If we are critical of the thoughts and expressions of those around us we become isolated. That is a lonely way to live. I admire young people and their fashion statements in part because I remember fondly the stir we caused with striped bell bottoms and flower print shirts back in the 60s.
The only constant in life is change. Enjoy it or ignore it, it doesn’t matter. If you don’t dress like Katya, great. Give credit where you feel credit is due and forget about the rest. For God’s sake and your own don’t be a part of the droll rabble that keeps spewing useless criticisms without any possible alternatives. We will always be better people for it.
February 28, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Richard,
You’ve got me reflecting on the whole process of shooting photos like this.
I just remembered that I had a quick chat with Katya 2 days ago.
She told me that she was very excited to share her photos on this page with her mama and papa and that they were both very proud of how beautiful their daughter’s photos looked.
Heck.. I would be very proud of any girl like that too!
In any case it’s always a great feeling to be able to produce a few images for a special girl that her family really cherishes.
Images like this are not taken for granted and to get the added benefit of parental validation for my work really gives me the warm fuzzy.
It’s difficult to explain but Richard you might be able to identify with this.
When I take a picture of a young lady.. and her parents see it.. they just really become appreciative and light up with pride.
I think this realization is sitting in the back of my mind every time I do a shoot and it makes me feel a special responsibility for how I work with a lady and how she is portrayed especially to her family.
Shooting photos like this can be a very intense and intimate affair and there is a very high degree of professionalism and most importantly trust that is required.
The reward of you guys also appreciating this is fantastic.. but every so often someone still wants to try to “tag” the photos with some nasty commentary.. and yes it ticks me off because of the trust I’ve already worked hard to establish with the lady I’ve taken photos of.
I believe that most of the Men who visit this site have the special honor of understanding what the world “Muse” really means.
Obviously there are other women in this world who can’t handle the very thought of this and will do whatever they can to spoil it.
But at some point I believe that beauty and true femininity will prevail and all deserving men and women who respect it’s power will find their higher selves in each other.
February 28, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Always appreciate your point of view Richard!
I have to say something else about Katya. I really appreciate the fact that she looks pleasant. She’s smiling. None of that dissatisfied, unimpressed, attempting to be cool pout about her – she projects satisfaction.
That’s a quality I always look for when making friends – a quality becoming more and more rare …. making me appreciate my current friends all the more! =)
February 28, 2009 at 9:17 pm
RW,
I thought that was a lovely tidbit about the girl showing the photos to her parents. I remember taking home two photos of myself (normal, head n shoulders) and my parents were so proud when I didn’t expect any reaction. It makes me smile thinking of Katya and her folks looking at these pics.
If any of the girls you know would like to talk to an English girl I’d love that. I’m trying to learn Russian and, anyway, it would be nice to talk to some girls from different countries (I’m fascinated by culture/languages)…
I hope Katya isn’t reading the comments that disagree with her appearance or is upset by them, I know they could hurt and make her question herself. If I passed a girl in the street I would smile at her in acknowledgement of her confidence in her appearance. I didn’t want to jump in on this, but on reading that she might visit this site, I felt a bit sad for her.
xxx
February 28, 2009 at 9:18 pm
rw_man,
Your images are very good and seem to just get better all of the time. My off the cuff comments on all of these shots of Katya would mostly have to do with something you had little control over and that is background. The only improvement for any of these would be a plain, white backdrop. No fault, no complaint, just in this particular instance it’s about the only thing that would have improved the shoot. You do great with soft lighting and composition, and we all know your subjects are worthy of the effort.
As far as Katya herself, her power and presence is clearly (to me) in the structure of her facial features. Shots one and three are as good as any I’ve ever seen but that’s the part us camera guys can take very little credit for. Her eyes, her cheeks, her lips, everything. She is just plain gorgeous. The use of that sculpture as a foreground piece is fine. It just adds depth and doesn’t detract from the subject. The full length shot is nice and again could only be better without the door in back. I like the plant for contrasting color and a little more depth.
One big obstacle for many photographers is making the model feel at ease. You have gone way past that problem from the very beginning. The more of these you do the more obvious it is that these girls trust you and are comfortable in front of your lens. On a shoot with someone new I generally spend nearly an hour of prep time shooting them getting ready or picking outfits and just talking with them. It makes the camera less visible once we start working and the whole shoot becomes an extension of the conversation rather than work. Many of my good shots have been taken before we were ‘on the clock’.
My two cents worth is ‘great work, keep it coming’.
February 28, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Richard,
That post in Russian is a bit difficult to read & comprehend. I had to go back and forth between the original post that was written in English and the Russian translation to really make sure I understand what I read in Russian. There’s many contradictions in the Russian version…
For example.. The Russia version showed, “Kisha и рассвет” while the English version showed, “Kisha and Dawn”… Obviously, the computer translated “Dawn” to “рассвет”.. “и” means “and”… “рассвет” means dawn as daybreak (at sunrise to begin the day).. but the true meaning is that Dawn is an English version of feminine name.
The machine translation from English to Russian is not an effective way to convey the message.. because the machine tends to be very literal with words and word order of the English language.
The language structure of Russian is very different from English. English is much more logical & mathematical-like whereas Russian is more subjective. The word order of the Russian language is not always the same as English.
It’s highly recommended to have someone like Snejana, one of fine Russian ladies whose their photos were posted on this website, to do the translate job for you to convey the true meaning of what you said in your native language.
By the way, thank you so much for you taking so much of time to share your insights about photography and fashions. I really appreciate it so much.
February 28, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Soz. I wish I could edit comments. I always end up correcting them.
*sad about them (last line)
(as in, about the comments. The original sentence made sense but it had been merged with an old sentence and wasn’t what I meant to say…)
Blah blah blah. xx
February 28, 2009 at 9:27 pm
I echo Richard’s sentiments.
What is the moral of this story? I believe it is twofold. First, there is a BIG difference between CONstructive criticism and DEstructive criticism. It is one thing to evaluate something or someone with the intention to improve the situation; it is quite another thing to “sling mud” out of jealousy or similar feelings. It is pretty obvious who belongs in which category here.
Secondly, you will always have naysayers and people who are against you, regardless of the circumstances. Those who are unhappy with their lives will always try to find a way to bring you down to their level, without taking much effort to improve their own situation. The bad news is that that is life, unfortunately. The good news is, you have the freedom to ignore them and move on. Most come here to celebrate something beautiful, but a few come to crash the party. But the party will still be here long after they are gone.
Dawn, Kisha, and others like them will continue to post…and I will continue to care less. I am here to learn, to find beauty and happiness, and to even contribute when I feel it is helpful. And I don’t believe I am alone in this thinking, either. If I could meet, fall in love with, marry, and have a wonderful family with such a beautiful woman as Katya, well, then I guess I will just have to live with that happiness for the rest of my life!
Oh, and just in case it has not been mentioned enough already: Katya, you are truly a beautiful, feminine woman, and feel free to express that beauty any way you see fit. And that goes for Elena, Masha, and the other special ladies as well!
February 28, 2009 at 9:34 pm
BK,
Thank you very much for the comments. I have had trouble with translation ‘programs’ before in almost every language. English is of course the problem because we have butchered words and bastardized phrases so badly. Nearly every other language is more literal that English.
I’m happy that you found the photography thoughts helpful. That may be the one area of my life I can actually claim some expertise in. The biggest challenge I’ve had in over forty years has come in the last two while making the change to digital. It is a complete shift from much of what I have known since I was a kid. Modern photographers are also computer technicians if they want to stay competitive. But each day that starts with a camera in my hand feels like a good day.
February 28, 2009 at 9:46 pm
GL,
WOW! I have not realized what you have gone through the process of taking pictures of those fine ladies. Honestly, I have been taking them for granted because I am used to be around a lot of beautiful ladies until you shared your story about taking pictures. I just gained a sense of appreciation for the pictures that you have been posting on this website.
I would feel the same way if I was her father… I think that it’s so much special about having a family and feel so proud for your wife and children doing well. I feel like it’s in my utmost responsibility as a gentleman is to find a real beautiful and classy lady with values because when I have a daughter, I would do anything I can to make sure she has the best role model that she can look up and learn how to be a true feminine lady… that is her mother. That’s why I have to be picky & make sure that she’s suitable to become a great wife and mother!
I feel that seeing a smile face of your loved ones is so much more precious and valuable than having a successful & profitable business or driving a nice fast BMW. Just that they are something to support family and help out with family expenses, but personally, I’d rather to be at a nice park somewhere in Russia playing my accoustic guitar and sing in Russian with friends or family than being too confined with business by having to work 12 hours a day to take care of business.
February 28, 2009 at 9:54 pm
rw_man,
Yes, my friend, I can relate to those feelings when a family member, especially parents, sees some images and they get that sense of pride and happiness. In Mexico several years ago I took some shots of a young woman sitting with two small children after shopping. Before we came home I took the prints to the house where I shot them and the mother looked at them and began crying. My cousin who speaks Spanish said the woman told her that she had never noticed how pretty her daughter was.
If you ever start shooting disadvantaged children, buckle your seat belt. The emotional ride is intense.
One big obstacle for many photographers is making the model feel at ease. You have gone way past that problem from the very beginning. The more of these you do the more obvious it is that these girls trust you and are comfortable in front of your lens. On a shoot with someone new I generally spend nearly an hour of prep time shooting them getting ready or picking outfits and just talking with them. It makes the camera less visible once we start working and the whole shoot becomes an extension of the conversation rather than work. Many of my good shots have been taken before we were ‘on the clock’.
Your images are very good and seem to just get better all of the time. My off the cuff comments on all of these shots of Katya would mostly have to do with something you had little control over and that is background. The only improvement for any of these would be a plain, white backdrop. No fault, no complaint, just in this particular instance it’s about the only thing that would have improved the shoot. You do great with soft lighting and composition, and we all know your subjects are worthy of the effort.
As far as Katya herself, her power and presence is clearly (to me) in the structure of her facial features. Shots one and three are as good as any I’ve ever seen but that’s the part us camera guys can take very little credit for. Her eyes, her cheeks, her lips, everything. She is just plain gorgeous. The use of that sculpture as a foreground piece is a fine touch. It just adds depth and doesn’t detract from the subject at all. The full length shot is nice and relaxed, and again could only be better without the door in back. I like the plant for contrasting color and a little more depth.
Anyhow, my two cents worth is ‘great work, keep it coming’.
February 28, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Sam,
Thank you for you post and for that you decided to share you thoughts with me in a nice way, I really appreciate it. I agree tacky might be a harsh word. But you see outfits as in the pictures would hardly ever considered modest in Russia, and we as a nation are not exactly the most sensetieve people on Earth. Everyone has a share of some bizarre looking outfits and looking back at them ppl often wonder how could they do anything like that. But we all learn from our mistakes. I’ll try to be more careful with my words next time.
Richard, from what I understood this very girl came to the party dressed up like that, GL never argued against this hypothesis. Or did he chose not to answer this question? Normally when people do time for print they may collaborate on what models will be wearing… And as much as I want photos of me in a gas mask taken, I don’t think any of my friends will ever do it for me. Shame.
It was really interesting to read about latest trends of North America, though guess you should really live in Russia to see what I see. It’s a cultural thing. You know what mothers teach their daughters here? *no matter what you are wearing you should always look tidily*
Dawn, thanks I can share this information with you later if you wish.
March 1, 2009 at 9:36 am
Kisha,
You said you couldn’t see any other Russians apart from yourself commenting here. So here I am, totally Russian. Katya is not friend of mine and I have never seen her in person, but I think she looks great. I am pretty sure she gets lots of attention in Kazakhstan where the most of the population is dark-haired and dark-eyed. And the fact that I would probably never wear the way she does, doesn’t tell anything about her but about me and my personal values.
Bella,
I would love to talk to you. If you learn Russian that will be even more productive for both of us as I study English. Communicating with people from different cultures and backgrounds is very interesting to me, too.
Richard,
I remember you were planning on going to Russia with your daughter. I hope you didn’t change your mind. I would love to hear from you.
March 1, 2009 at 11:20 am
Snežana,
If you read my comments thoroughly I never said anything about Katja herself, but her outfit. Because as far as I know clothes is not something people born with so they couldn’t change it. And I as many other people here think Katya is very attractive.
“And the fact that I would probably never wear the way she does, doesn’t tell anything about her but about me and my personal values.” – I see where you’re comming from. Thanks.
March 1, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Dawn wrote “almost zero”. I think Dawn likes me. Please allow me to clarify. If we were magnets, I would be positive to your negative so there is absolutely ZERO chance of someone like me and as you put it so well ENDING up married to someone like you.
March 1, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Hey GL, were you tempted to challenge Katya to a game of STRIP poker? Heh heh, lucky for you that you didn’t. 🙂
But seriously, would you hold it against me if I were envious of YOU? Man, I wish I were in Russia now.
March 1, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Kisha,
I read the same thing as you about Katya showing up for a poker party dressed as we see her. Pardon me for making it sound differently; like rw_man asked for some photos and she changed into this outfit.
However, the question which still remains is why do you find this so offensive? It isn’t as if anyone has asked you to wear these clothes out to a party or a photo shoot or even around your flat, so what is the reason that you feel compelled to degrade the girl as if she is some sort of ingrate? Fine, you have acknowledged her physical beauty but you still said things about her attire that have no constructive attributes what-so-ever and you have no stake in her life or decisions what-so-ever. Back to a question I posed in an earlier post, “Who do you think you are?” Is there some reason why anyone should give a moment’s notice to your out of line comments? Are you of some status in the fashion industry? Are you a design critic? Why do you feel it is even your place to make such snide commentary towards someone you don’t even know on a casual basis, much less through an intimate friendship of any kind? And again, why do you think anyone would care?
You have slammed the girl’s clothing as if you are somehow worthy of standing in judgment over the issue and then when people take offense to your words you jump on them as if they are the ones who have a problem.
Where I come from there’s an old saying, “If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck”. You act like a woman controlled by petty jealousy and you talk like a woman controlled by petty jealousy, so my guess is that you are, in fact, a woman who is controlled by petty jealousy.
Your commentary throughout this thread is exactly why a site like this was created and it is exactly why a site like this continues to grow. If you don’t like horror films, do you still go and pay your $10 or $15 to see each new one that comes out? I would hope not, unless it is your personal goal in life to be accurately labeled as a hypocrite. So, if you are offended by the images on GL and the attitude presented on GL, then why the hell are you here? I don’t care for Indian food. Nothing against the people who prepare it or love to eat it, but it just doesn’t agree with my body. Guess what? I don’t go to Indian restaurants.
On the other hand if you are on some sort of crusade to change the mind set of NA men who are fed up with self centered, controlling, power hungry western women, then I have to say you are doing your cause more harm than good. Each time you post this sort of rant on a site devoted to learning about and understanding a culture we are as yet unfamiliar with, you validate, concretely, everything we have come here to avoid.
By the way, as far as whether or not rw_man defends the girls on this site to you or he doesn’t is merely a matter of courtesy on his part. He owes you no such explanations. This thought by you that you deserve more is an additional symptom of an entitlement mentality which is very western for someone of your stated background.
Trust me on this; intelligent men don’t give a crap for your opinion of what another woman wears.
I don’t see you posting your image anywhere for the world to see and ‘judge’ you on. Maybe if you did, the world would see too much of who you really seem to be.
March 1, 2009 at 8:51 pm
For everyone else,
I’m sorry if I am sounding too harsh or overbearing regarding Kisha and her opinions. I have lived long enough and experienced far too much to be silent when someone speaks so loudly from a position of such apparent ignorance.
March 1, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Snejana,
It is my desire to visit the ancient city of Velikiy Novgorod this summer during the 1150 year anniversary. I have read about this city and its incredible history and I think as a first visit to your country this might be a wonderful introduction. Also, for my young daughter the educational value would certainly be unique. It is possible that a close friend will travel with us but all of this is still only a rough plan. Nothing is set up at this point and there are many hurdles to cross in the preparation. My daughter still needs a passport, there are travel visas to get in order, I will need a house sitter who is not allergic to cats, and many other details which I have not yet considered. I also hope to write about the trip and to photograph the people and the landmarks so I will need to update my press credentials and possibly acquire some sponsorship. So far I have not locked in dates and that will depend on the various celebrations. I know there are special fairs for children and I would sure want my daughter to see such events. I have started a list of the sort of things I want to purchase when I get to Russia and also the kind of things I want to bring with us. As a photographer I am already trying to choose a minimal amount of equipment as to make travel easy while still having enough range to capture the images I need. Maybe just one compact, semi professional camera and lots of extra memory cards.
When it looks more certain whether or not we will be coming to your country I will be posting more on this site to ask for thoughts and suggestions for the journey. I hope I will be able to chat with you much more by then.
Warm thoughts and best wishes for now.
March 2, 2009 at 3:27 am
I hope you make it Richard,
I have fond memories of my trip to Siberia and am hoping to add new memeories with my travels this year. I am not sure yet exactly where I will be going but I’m am excited about adding to them.
March 2, 2009 at 3:52 am
GL,
What can I say other than WOW?! She is beyond beautiful! Katya is living proof that there is a God in Heaven, because only a God in Heaven could create someone so beautiful…
MarkyMark
March 2, 2009 at 3:57 am
SISD,
I hope we can make it there this year, too. this past Friday my 7 year separation was finally brought to an end. Next Friday is my birthday. All in all, I think a special celebration this summer is highly called for.
The anniversary in V. Novgorod is apparently going on throughout most of the year so it will be easy to catch some part of it, but just the idea that it was a city for over 630 years when Columbus first set foot on North America simply blows me away. Add to that the wars and governments that have changed hands in the region over the centuries and parts of the city have never been lost. Wow just isn’t enough.
When you went to Siberia how much planning and leg work did you do before leaving? What sort of connections did you have in place by the time you got there? How much money did you take along for goodies to bring home? (I know . . . . blah, blah, blah from someone who hasn’t been yet) I am hoping to get a lot more info from people who have been or are there before I head out.
March 2, 2009 at 5:00 am
Standby MarkyMark because I have another set of photos of Katya that will knock your socks off. So stay tuned..
March 2, 2009 at 8:50 am
Richard, I said it all in my previous posts and I have nothing more to add. Commenting on someones clothes is not a crime.
Vstrečajut po odežke provožajut po umu, there’s something to think about.
March 2, 2009 at 10:56 am
What an interesting, thought-provoking thread.
I’d like to join in the choir and say how beautiful Katya is. In my humble opinion one of the most beautiful women on this blog despite the fierce competition.
I’m a little afraid to say anything about the clothes, and Katya would undoubtedly look gorgeous in anything, but I guess I do feel the look comes off as a little “hard” which is the way I always feel about all-black outfits. I think it’d be interesting to see her in something more “sweet” as she has such a look of sweetness about her.
I’ve been watching the discussion unfold and think that Dawn, at least, has been very generous with her compliments in other threads so I’m not sure it can all be put down to envy. Having said that, of course, envy is a prevalent character trait and, yes, probably especially among women. I find the discussion very interesting because I myself used to be a quite jealous person and to some degree still am. Really, can you blame me if I wish I had hair like Katya’s? I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about where this jealousy came from, especially seeing as I would at the same time refuse to believe compliments or to acknowledge the strengths I actually do have. The closest I’ve come to an answer has been that it is probably some weird mix of insecurity and the belief that I was somehow better than everybody else, that unlike other people I could be expected to be perfect. Fortunately, I’ve worked through most of those issues now, but I suppose I’ve just given you all the reason in the world not to like me 😉
Another thing… Somebody mentioned that Western women are jealous of other women’s good looks because we can’t be bothered taking proper care of ourselves. Or something like that. And no, I don’t wear make-up everyday, but there is a reason for that. It’s not that I can’t be bothered, because I can and I think make-up is fun, but with all the talk of chemicals in cosmetics and the rising number of children born with deformities caused by these chemicals I think it is a bit too risky to wear it everyday. Just to try to explain…
And judge away:
http://picasaweb.google.com/MissHazel/Mig?authkey=Gv1sRgCKXCvt7EqJuNoAE#
March 2, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Hazel,
Now, that’s a variety of photos of a pretty lady. I love your eyes, hair, and that enviable smile. After reading a number of your posts, I assumed you were a much older person. Obviously, you have done a lot of thinking about human nature, particularly as it applies to your own behavior. The self-awareness, maturity, and wisdom you have gained through such analytical thinking is evident in your writing.
Due to all the rain and snow the past few days, I have been cooped-up, and unable to get out and work as usual. It’s been good, though, because I’ve done some of that introspective thinking that we all need to do at times. Like some of the guys here, I am trying to channel some of the energy needed to sustain my darker thoughts of envy, jealousy, lack of self-acceptance, etc. into more productive thinking and action. As I have grown older, I have really learned to enjoy engaging people who think differently, dress differently, and live differently. Now, I am trying to be less critical of what I think to be their motives. I am still intolerant of words and actions that wound people. That intolerance extends to my own sometimes despicable acts. I mentioned laughing at a young girl who was wearing the best clothes her family could afford in a way she felt comfortable in earlier comments. To this day, I wince when I recall the pain and hurt I saw in her face. Many times, I have wished that I could travel back at my present age, pick that girl up in a hug, and tell her how much I loved her sweet nature, how much I admired her hard work, and how terribly sorry I was for my hellish behavior. I don’t want to see someone else’s words and actions inflict similar pain here today, on this site. GL was doing a wonderful thing. He was lifting up a girl of uncommon beauty–the whole girl, not just a pretty body–for all to see and enjoy. He even spoke of the joy the photographs brought to her parents. I shared in their delight. Let’s don’t bring hurt and pain into this experience.
March 2, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Hazel,
I’m not sure why you think anyone should be critical of your thoughts. You haven’t insulted anyone and you’ve made your feelings clear.
While there are people here (and in every other venue available to them) who take cheap shots at others out of their own insecurity or jealousy, you haven’t done that.
One of my earlier comments said, in part, “women who don’t take good care of their own appearance and then consequently run down others who do”. That was said without a single thought regarding make up or even a true sense of fashion. Here is the reason for that statement; when I was 35 years old I knew one woman who was overweight because of inactivity, dressed like a man because she didn’t think it was her place to impress others, talked like a long haul trucker or ex Marine and rarely did anything more with her hair except cover it with a scarf. I’m now 55 years old and women like her are plentiful to a nearly epidemic proportion in NA. Sadly they sit around in groups and bitch about every woman who is still in shape after kids and careers while not caring enough about their own health to get off their rear ends and change. I’m talking about lazy people, not those with medical conditions which won’t allow them to merely work it off.
NA women spit and moan about other, more attractive women looking ‘trampy’ for the simple reason that when they look in their own mirrors they are disgusted by the image looking back. Obesity, heart disease and heart attacks, clinical depression and many other dangerous physical and mental conditions have doubled in NA women over the past 20 years. That along with the mentality of arrogance and entitlement have put NA women on the bottom of almost every international scale in terms of personal care, self respect and any semblance of dignity. Not to mention desirability.
Argue the point, don’t argue the point, it doesn’t matter to me. I believe what I see every day of my life. And it isn’t some overly romantic, lost or cloudy memories that make me feel this way. I have been an avid photographer since I got my first camera on my tenth birthday. That will be 46 years ago come this Friday. I have documented the changes in our culture, inadvertently, through my passion for taking pictures.
The disproportionate number of ‘out of shape’ women (and men) in NA is embarrassing to say the least, but when the women of the world take on the mind set of modern NA women, I can envision a time when the ‘good ones’ will be secretly bought and sold as breeding stock in dark, expensive, underground meeting places. (Okay, so that may be a worst case scenario and a bit George Orwell-ian, but you get my point)
When one of the other women here made a completely uncalled for put down over Katya’s clothing choice, it set in motion this current round of disagreements and banter. While that person still, after several subsequent comments has said nothing of value constructively speaking, she still staunchly defends her bad attitude as nothing more than a right to her opinion. The clinical term for that is denial. So be it.
You, on the other hand, have said nothing negative or immature yet we can all still understand that you wouldn’t agree that the all black outfit would be appropriate from your perspective. Even though you may be equally adamant about the clothing, you have said it in a reasonable, inoffensive way. Opinion stated, dignity intact.
And as for anyone reading your post and having ‘all the reason in the world not to like you’, well from my point of view being honest about yourself in a public forum requires personal strength and it should never be used against you.
March 2, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Hazel,
Sorry, if it appeared I was being critical of you in my comments. That was not the case at all. I should have been more clear. Your comments about Katya’s clothes were great. I have no problem at all with such constructive comments or opinions. I was referring to the earlier comments you referred to in the thread.
March 2, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Hazel,
Unfortunately, in Copenhagen, you don’t have to look any further than the drinking water to find harmful chemicals…..
I can get actual makeup that has absolutely no chemicals in it. It’s all made from natural and beneficial raw materials and extracts.
March 2, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Sam,
Thank you for the compliments!
Don’t worry, I didn’t misunderstand you. As human beings I suppose we’re prone to doing really, really stupid things. I can certainly think of a few people I have hurt for the simple reason that I just wasn’t thinking. And it does break my heart a little to think that Katya and her parents would read some of the comments here and have their joy tainted. Hopefully, they won’t care too much.
Richard,
I think you could probably convince me of pretty much anything 🙂
I won’t argue your point on NA women as, really, I have no clue… I’ve been to Canada once for a month and stayed with a family who fits the description you give pretty well. They were very nice to me, but one of the daughters had the sweetest, most loving boyfriend and was really quite nasty to him even though she did seem to genuinely love him. I was so confused and changed by the whole experience that my mum wasn’t much pleased when I got back to Denmark, and I think it took me a month to get back to my normal self. That was in 2001 and that’s the only experience I’ve had with North America.
Sometimes I think that what differences of opinion we have is caused by the fact that you’re a man and I’m not. To be honest, sometimes I take offense with this blog. After all, my mother and my friends are Western women and I love them all so much and they are so sweet, intelligent and funny and I can’t think of even one among them who isn’t a feminist. Sometimes I can’t help but feel they’re being demonized a little on this blog. My room mate here at MGU is probably the most ardent feminist I’ve ever met, and she does everything she can to help everybody who needs her help. But, of course, I don’t know how they act in their relationships or how men perceive them. A romantic kind of love is, after all, different and more complicated than a friendship. As written above, I have definitely hurt some men myself who didn’t deserve to get hurt, in most cases because I didn’t know how to handle the responsibility that comes with somebody having feelings for you, and I’d panic a little because I hadn’t seen the signs when perhaps I ought to have.
Reading the posts here has definitely prompted some thinking for me. And while I do think that feminism has brought about some positive changes I agree that there is a bit of a persecution complex in the movement. I noticed that when my boyfriend would ask me to do something my reflex response would be (thought, not said aloud) “Why should I? Why don’t you do it yourself?” After some consideration, though, it has become obvious to me that he does way more than his share and that that he is always prepared to do things without ever thinking that he is being taken advantage of. But women are so quick to think “you’re just asking me because I’m a woman, you chauvinist pig!” At the moment I’m stuck in Moscow, but when I get back home I am looking forward to returning the favor and start doing my share plus bake him his favourite caramel shortbread more often! 🙂
March 3, 2009 at 5:31 am
Hi Hazel,
First off I wanted to say that your ability to post your photos along with your complete and refreshing honesty about the natural feelings of quiet envy you may feel is absolutely honorable.
I have deep respect for anyone who can be that honest.
Some of our readers can certainly learn some very valuable lessons about humility from you.
And humility when it comes from a beautiful lady such as yourself is VERY attractive and engaging.
Also the fact that you can have a sense of humor about yourself really shows the world that you are more secure then the average person. So I wanted to tell you how much I appreciate all of this.
Now on the topic of feminists..
Let’s just seriously look at the root of what feminism is..
Modern Feminism = Women turning into Men
I’ve met some very nice feminists too but I would simply never trust them as a relationship partner. I don’t want to share my home or bed with a woman who has a confused identity and acts like a man.
These women have been lied to by society to believe that the only identity of any value is a career oriented one (read: me first).
They may be completely geared for the workplace.. but they are certainly NOT geared for hearth and home. And usually these women don’t realize what they’ve lost in terms of their decision to forfeit a happy stable family until it’s too late.
Sure they probably have some money or a retirement package saved up but they just get old and gray and wonder why men, children or grandchildren don’t come around.
They’ve invested into their stock portfolios (and the cruel irony here is that this probably won’t be around anymore in this day and age) but they haven’t truly invested their heart or actions into something far more valuable. A family..
In life there is always a price to pay for your decisions.. and if Feminists believe that life is fair and should reward them with a happy family when they haven’t put any forethought or required effort into it then they are sadly mistaken.
So here’s where the stereotypical nasty vicious feminist comes into play..
These women usually end up feeling betrayed and empty for their own dumb decisions and then go into denial about it and want to blame men instead.
How convenient eh?
After all “it’s all a man’s fault” right?
I truly hope that you and other women resist the temptation to travel down this path.. because it is in my mind truly a one way trip to an empty lonely little hell.
Thanks again.. GL
March 2, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Hazel,
I’m not sure which country you are in but it is possible to get natural, safe makeup. I myself love Lily Lolo, which is a British company. As I recall it was far easier to get them in America, if you are from the US, there are quite a few companies selling safe makeup there.
You are beautiful. I would post a pic of myself but it seems silly to create an account for one small photo. I guess it wasn’t requested as I didn’t comment too much on Katya :]
xxx
March 2, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Kisha, how old are you, and where do you live? Are you still in Russia or have you been away so long you have forgot how to act? You should feel complete shame of what you said. I hope you someday realize it.
March 3, 2009 at 12:39 am
Thanks, and you are welcome, Hazel. When I was exercising this afternoon I kept thinking about my incessant blogging this time around, and was hoping you understood me.
Will you share some of your thoughts about your trip to Moscow with us? I would like to hear about the economy, the women, the clothing(Lord, help us),the demeanor of the average person you encountered, etc. Since you have some connection to that land, I hope GL will post photos 2,5,7 and 16 for the record. 🙂
I understand the conflicted feelings you experience in the everyday “give and take” in your relationship. It sounds like you have a good man, though, and he’ll work as hard as you do to keep a healthy balance.
If I am ever in the area, I do hope to sample some of that caramel shortbread.
March 3, 2009 at 6:24 am
My goodness, I signed on after a hiatus only to wonder what all the fuss is about.
Before I begin writing anything…
Katya, you are so beautiful! My jaw dropped when I saw your pictures. Your soul comes out in these pictures. I wish I could photograph that well. You should be proud.
To add my two cents to the discussion…
Has anybody ever heard of the term neuveux (spelling?) riche? The idea is you can take someone who is low class in behavior, dress them up in the finest things, and they will still be low class. Have you ever noticed how despite the beautiful things surrounding such individuals, their soul somehow tarnishes it?
It’s sort of the same idea here except think of it in the reverse. Katya’s personality illuminates to such an extent, that no matter what she wears, I am sure she will make it look beautiful. So what about the quality of clothing? She carries it with class and elegance.
Lord knows that I certainly wasn’t blessed with the best of looks. It took me years to get past the mental blocks preventing me from being able to work with what was given to me.
It would be such a shame to see someone else waste theirs, and it makes me happy to see Katya proudly commanding her naturally given beauty. This is definitely no neuveaux riche!
The name of the game that has been forgotten is to work with with what you have. I was an ugly duckling growing up-over weight and unhealthy. At 18, I grew tired of it and started exercising, eating right, learning about make up, hair and fashion.
5 years later, I am thirty five pounds lighter, run 10 km three times a week, healthy and happy. Although my looks are still average at best, I can still be well groomed and take pride in that fact while feeling comfortable in wearing heels and skirts everyday. Lord knows my man appreciates it, and so do the people around me. The moral of this story: Jealousy is something I used to have in abundance, and you know what? It left me behind in the pursuit of happiness! No wonder the Bible used it as part of the ten commandments. It is rotting for the soul. I just became uglier and unhappier as time went on due to negligence of my own spiritual development. Jealousy is nothing but a decoy, and a self-destructive one at that. Stay far from it, run far from it!
To conclude, Katya please do not be hurt by the comments of a few misguided women. And please continue that wicked fashion sense! I could learn a thing or two from it. Many other women around you could.
xoxox
A Girl
PS. In the name of honesty…here is my picture:
March 3, 2009 at 7:21 am
Very nice Isobel. I wish you the best of luck finding a man if you have not already found.
March 3, 2009 at 8:34 am
Hello Richard,
Sir, I always look forward to your posts. In fact, I often read them twice because I am here for an education as much as anything else. You have done a lot of living in your 56 years, and it’s admirable that you take the time to share so much.
Surprisingly, I completely missed your compliment, despite reading your posts very carefully. So, I offer a belated thank you very much.
March 3, 2009 at 8:35 am
Love your story Catherine,
Great moral to it..
I agree.. Katya is the type of girl who could probably wear a potato sack and still manage to look great.
I admire the work you’ve put into “honoring what God has given you”.
I think that’s a fantastic attitude to have and combined with your photo I’m sure I can understand why your Man is quite the happy guy!
Cheers! GL
March 3, 2009 at 9:31 am
Catherine,
In this neck of the woods, to borrow a youthful expression, you would be considered undeniably “Hot”. Please add another person to your list of admirers.
Your comments are constructive,educational, and spiritually uplifting. Even if you totally disagreed with the “situation”, I am sure you would have voiced your opinions in a respectful and thoughtful way.
Bella,
My comments to you are innocent, and not intended as a “come-on” in any way. Please consider them to be the praise of a proud uncle or something. I have read your comments and blog for many weeks now, and, to put it mildly, you are captivating. Your sensitivity, intelligence,humor, innocence, appreciation for nature and the simple things in life,love for people and your all-encompassing femininity just seem to roll out across the pages. I bet Snejana, Katya, Masha, Elena and all the girls would love to hug your neck. I am sure you would be a great friend to them.
March 3, 2009 at 9:40 am
Bella,
Thank you 🙂
I’m in Moscow at the moment but am Danish/British. Never heard of Lily Lolo, though, will have to look into it 🙂
Wolverine,
You wouldn’t happen to be Norwegian, would you? 🙂 I don’t really have an opinion on the drinking water, but in any case that isn’t really something I can do much about, especially as bottled water has serious drawbacks as well.
GL,
Thank you for the compliments!
I know how you feel about feminism and why, and as I’ve said, I somewhat agree. But I experience what I experience, and all I can tell you is that that is apparently a little different from your experience. This may be because I’m not looking at it from the angle of having to find a partner, I don’t know. But I definitely don’t see my friends as turning into men, they all care about how they look and they are all very family oriented (meaning that they are very close to their families and that they want a family of their own). This morning I was talking to my room mate and when we happened to touch on feminism she exclaimed “just because you’re a feminist doesn’t mean you can’t shave your legs!”
I’m not trying in any way to invalidate your experiences, just to say that they haven’t been mine.
March 3, 2009 at 10:13 am
Sam,
I have a blog at hazellouisaenglish.blogspot.com/ which is where I write about my everyday life. At the moment I think it kind of shines through that I’ve been quite homesick and really miss everybody at home. But I’m beginning to feel more at home here now so hopefully I’ll be able to write some more interesting posts soon 🙂
March 3, 2009 at 10:33 am
Hi Hazel,
Feminism takes on many other forms besides appearances.
You can take any of the characters in “Sex and the City” for example and apply my same critique to them from the standpoint of biological masculine behaviors on sexuality.
For example what happens to women when society convinces them to emulate some of the most self-destructive norms of sexual behavior?
What happens to a “liberated” woman’s emotional health when she see’s dating and sex as a type of sport?
I’ve attempted to write a previous true life story about this and I can assure you it’s not a pretty picture.
The key problem is that feminism preaches that women can break any common sense boundaries about their bodies, emotions, relationships and career choices in life WITHOUT Consequence.
And as we know.. this is like saying that walking off a cliff is fine because gravity somehow doesn’t apply to you.
Yes there are certainly different extremes of this and some women will ditch their traditional feminine identities all together to look like a Man while others will simply act more like a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
I’m sure from the standpoint of most women this type of “freedom” that they are experiencing “feels” great? So why should they stop??
Well I’m sure spending like crazy and living on credit feels good for the short run too..
But just like we are discovering with our economy right now Feminism is nothing more then a very fragile bubble that will pop and create great suffering for the long term.
Furthermore I firmly standby my earlier assertion that Feminism is nothing more then an Economic Bubble.
Feminism can only exist like a parasite on the backs of a wealthy society. When that comes crashing down women will have a much more balanced view on the value of Men and Family in their lives.
Therefore Feminism is inherently unsustainable as a long term movement and cultural belief.
Mark my words.. you will see this transformation with your own eyes..
March 3, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Oh almighty GL, it looks like none of my posts came through, but I hope at least you read it and learned something new about lexicology. Well I mean about lexicology as such.
😉
Всех благ!
K.
March 3, 2009 at 5:20 pm
No, Hazel, I’m not from Norway. I did spend a very nice week in Copenhagen though. I’m German from Canada.
March 3, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Lol Sam, I never would have taken your comment with anything but happiness, please don’t feel the need to excuse yourself! After all, it’s nice to have reassurance, I feel a bit of an oddity at times. I do hope they would contact me if they ever wanted to talk to an English girl. Snejana has emailed me and I’m happy about that, I have had the chance to learn about the big mystery that is Kazakhstan. I’d love to visit it someday.
Many thanks again. x
March 3, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Thank you for the very kind compliments. I assure you that my man makes me very happy, so the feeling is extremely mutual. He is twelve years my senior, and has a very good understanding of the natural roles between men and women. Without that mutual understanding, we would both be very unhappy without realizing that we were trying to fight the current.
GL, you make me blush. Thank you. On the note of modelling, there is a show called America’s Next Top Model and two seasons ago, there was a girl on there who was born in Russia and adopted by Hawaiian parents.
She was the most amazing model on that show. She was so good, that she made being covered by lemons look like fashion! The modelling agencies agree because she is the most successful out of all the contestants of her season post show (despite not winning it).
March 4, 2009 at 12:04 am
Anon, are you talking about that russian girl that was married to that guy from Texas, and had a child?? Or was this a different season??
March 12, 2009 at 4:10 pm
You have the most sweetest smile i have seen in a long while,lots of luck getting that really special guy.i am awed that by your smile i can also see your inner beauty.i am sure that you are sooo much beautifull inside,…i already have a crush on you…4 ever.,Anthony
September 6, 2009 at 2:58 am
spending 1 hr is enough with such a lady instead of wasting 100 years with out nothing.
December 15, 2009 at 3:21 am
There is a saying… “If one cannot say anything good, then say nothing at all.”
I really do not care whether the comments made had basis or not, whether they were accurate or not. It is really irrelevant.
It seems to me Katya was dressing for a man not a woman… so perhaps if she were dressing for women… then it would not be err so tacky?
It really makes no difference either way… have your thoughts and keep them. I think she is attractive and even if the clothing and manicure is not liked or appreciated, hey, again, I really do not care.
It looks good to me, and that is all that matters. I would just like to get know her. Never ever judge a book by its cover anyhow.
There are my two pennies worth!
December 22, 2009 at 6:34 pm
It’s always fun to learn what classic Latin quotes turn into.
De mortius aut bene aut nihil – hope it’s really not the case!
January 14, 2010 at 5:31 am
Looking at Katya, she is a prototype beauty for Russia, where girls wants to look flawless, its crucially important for them to look at their best, i would say, any women can look like this if she is willing to work on her appearance, Katja uses all the feminine tricks there is to enhance her attractiveness, long hair, nails done, black tight clothes, high heels and a very nice smile, she knows what looks good on her.
i would say Katjas face is attractive but its not a classical beauty and the nose is to broad and short for her face. and any normal women with a sense of feminine beauty can achieve similar results.
January 14, 2010 at 8:06 pm
well, Katya did make a great effort to make herself look good. Even though she’s still not a classic beauty, she is still beautiful.
But, unlike most western women that I see, she made a real effort to make herself look attractive… That’s a real plus…
January 14, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Yes, i agree with you, i think i sounded to harsh in my previous comment, didn’t mean to, because Katya is looking stunning,I think Katja is doing excellent and what i really ment is that more people should strive to do the same, dare to be feminine and soft… lot of people have potential to look amazing, unfortunately, many women try to spoil or hide their beauty instead of enhance it.
January 14, 2010 at 9:58 pm
biktopia and wolverine, you have both nailed the real point in my opinion, that it is generally just making the choice to look good or not.
Western women seem bent on looking as plain and boring as possible because they have the attitude, “I don’t need to get all fixed up for what others think”.
Unfortunately that makes them mostly look like something the cat has dragged in rather than building on their natural beauty and bolstering their self esteme.
Pretty sad, I think.
January 24, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I was watching an old “Girls next door” episode recently. Hef’s regular girl was choosing a number of girls for a shoot. 5 of them were from all over the U.S. and one was from Ukraine. They were all physically beautiful but it was interesting how the Ukrainian girl stood out. She had good posture, was poised, good manners, a sunny disposition, and bright. The American girls in contrast, were gum chewers. 2 of them were blonde twins and were ill-mannered and sluggish, and unintelligent. They may look good in photos but animated they were dull. The other American girls were good socially but in hey were a downgrade from the Ukrainian girl. One American girl had a great voluptuous figure and I personally thought she was hot . But as soon as she was in the picture with the Ukrainian girl, I noticed she looked a little slouched and dumpy when she walked.
Under normal circumstances, I wouldn’t notice these flaws and would probably drool a little over these American girls.
But because I was aware of FSU girls and had the Ukrainian girl to compare to the rest, I was not as enchanted with the American girls. OF course playboy bunnies are pretty ditzi anyways. But American girls carry these bad traits described to one degree or another. As I’m sure FSU girls carry the traits of this Ukrainian girl to one degree or another, so it seems.
January 27, 2010 at 4:10 am
Do you remember which episode this was??
January 29, 2010 at 3:23 am
I’m ot sure which episode it was, but I just looked up the name of Ukrainian model. Dasha Astafieva
here’s a couple youtube links of her.
Here’s one of her in some kind of music video.
What really makes her hot in this vid is her walk. If ANY “just OK looking” girl stolled by me with a walk like this, my head would spin.
January 30, 2010 at 12:12 am
I think Katya is very beautiful. All of this talk about her nose being this shape or her eyes this distance… it’s nonsense to me, I don’t find the perfect cookie-cutter image of a girl as being the best. Katya is what she is, and I’m sure if I was a man I wouldn’t want to change a millimetre of her beautiful, unique face. She is feminine, soft, goddess-like and totally lovely!
January 30, 2010 at 11:53 pm
I’m with you Bella, on all counts. Katya is stunning. She appears to be graceful and self confident. Since there is no “perfect” person we are better off to appreciate the beauty in life where ever and when ever we find it rather than to search for any so-called flaws to criticize. The only change I would ever dream about making for Katya might be her home address, so that it would match my own.
February 3, 2010 at 12:21 am
Katya’s nose is fine, it’s just that in classical beauty, one’s face is generally more angular.
February 12, 2010 at 7:20 pm
There is nothing wrong with the way Katya looks. But I will be blunt to say as a woman most women no matter what race ect are mean or sleep around and manly both. I have worked with women who are mean, singel mothers ect. Oh a classic such as filipino women that do crazy things such as crack thier husbands car windshield. Those these russian women are beautiful and I admire thier beauty to what I would want to copy. But I gotten to the point as a woman most women of the world want to make me throw up because of how they act.
February 12, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Ps sorry for the spelling and grammar errors.
February 15, 2010 at 10:15 pm
I think that’s a bit OTT, Westerngirl. I know loads of wonderful women. Sure there are bad eggs everywhere, but I know far more good ‘uns.
March 9, 2010 at 11:51 pm
I just don’t understand how the age of this girl’s clothes could be the first thing anybody sees.
She’s amazing, in more ways than I could possibly know from these pictures.
Why would Dawn or Kisha or anybody else actually make a comment like that? If you are somebody so petty as to think of something like that upon seeing these photographs, then keep your mouth shut.
And then I agree that any attacks on her character are infuriating. Maybe it’s a romantic notion, but I’d rather assume the best in people. I’d rather believe there are great women out there with pure souls and hearts of gold. And hopefully one for this young gentleman.
I’d like to trust my instincts, which make the illogical but irresistible conclusion just from these pictures that Katya is one of these lovely girls with a heart of gold and a captivating soul.
March 10, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Bella sorry if I came off harsh. Cody, as I said I have nothing gainst Kisha and will give her the benifit of the doubt and not question her character. But everyone has secrets and wears masks. That is not always bad some people should be allowed their secrets. Since thier mask is not to use or hurt people. But, I have learned through life there are people who use people and are of bad character. She probably is of good character but one bad experience had made me more careful. I
May 30, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Katya from Khazakstan,
If only I could visit Katya and see her beauty in reality which would be wonderful however wishful thinking on my part I suppose which I cannot help.I am transfixed by her face however I am sure I am not the only one so my message is a sure acknowledgement of a womans beauty and she most definetly has it in massive amounts
Mac
June 28, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Dawn and Kisha- shut up and go away.
rw_man: thanks for posting pictures of Katya. She’s a very beautiful woman. Would you be willing to ask her about her skincare regime?I would appreciate it very much.
June 28, 2010 at 9:46 pm
oh and to put in my two cents- a woman can dress for herself instead of for women or men.
June 30, 2010 at 9:36 am
Right, I we all do when we do not have to interact with other people.
For myself I love wearing nothing.
July 1, 2010 at 10:53 am
No-people who love themselves do. They take care of themselves and wear clothes which please them.
I love wearing dresses, silk and lingerie so I do. My best friend prefers jeans and t-shirts so she wears that.
You are arrogant to believe you know everyone’s motives.
June 28, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Dawn and Kisha- shut up and go away. (Kate)
Ahahahahahahahah! I love it.
Thanks kate, u know, as a guy, im not allowed to say things like that myself 🙂
June 30, 2010 at 9:33 am
Great oratorical skills, darling, even my 10 years old niece could do better.
Booo.
July 1, 2010 at 10:45 am
Thank you my dear.MY little niece knows not to call people names because it could hurt their feelings. She also knows not to judge people by their appearance.
Your attempt to insult me by implying that my oratorical skills are beneath a ten year old is weak.
It also doesn’t diminish the fact that you love drama and we don’t. Honestly, what on earth is worth all the drama?Not to mention that your last reply was six months ago.
I pity you for needing to insult lovely Katya and if you enjoy flame wars instead of having enriching discussions. However, if my comments fire up your reason for being then I’m happy.
All the same-shut up and go away.We don’t want you here. You have proven yourself to be an insulting and condescending woman who prefers to add negativity instead of beauty to this website and everyone who frequents it. You are unable to have a conversation without having a tantrum and insulting the character of whosoever disagrees with you instead of logical arguments. I am tired of it as well as others on this board, I’m sure. Go and leave us in peace.