I know this might be hard to believe…
But you will not believe just how many Beautiful Girls I’ve met here who DO NOT believe that they look like models…
My friend Snejana is a classic example of this.
Incredibly modest with her self-image and completely bewildered by the fact that I would want to grace this blog by taking photos of her.
She asked,
“Why would they want to see me when I see so many beautiful girls in American films?“
I simply answered,
“Just wait and see for yourself..”
Well Gentlemen it took a long time to convince Snejana to share her lovely presence with us but I believe that a little patience has paid off.
If you agree with this assessment then by all means please chime in and let’s hope that this isn’t the first and last time she pays us a visit.
Russian Women - The Real Truth 
March 3, 2008 at 7:58 pm
The first time I was in Eastern Europe I thought to myself:
“Man, I was born in the wrong country”.
Every time RW posts photos of girls in this blog, I realize that I was indeed born in the wrong country, LOL.
March 3, 2008 at 7:59 pm
RW_man, I mean…
sorry for the typo.
March 4, 2008 at 12:01 am
Ah, but Snejana doesn’t need tons of makeup and lighting, and just the right camera angle, to make her beautiful. Hollywood can never create that beauty that shines from within, that you have captured here GL.
March 4, 2008 at 12:44 am
Wow. I mean, wow. She thinks the American girls in films are prettier than her? Wow. She is amazing to say the least.
March 4, 2008 at 3:18 am
Your friend Snejana’s is indeed incredibly beautiful inside and out, especially those blue eyes of hers……:-) Moreover, she’s at peace with herself, something that most young American women are definitely not. She would be shocked if she met an average American girl, she’s not only beautiful, she’s also a well dressed young woman too.
Taras
March 4, 2008 at 4:02 am
I certainly know how you feel Rod.. but on the other hand maybe we were born in the right country in order to appreciate these women the way we do and do something about it too 🙂
March 4, 2008 at 4:02 am
Craig and Galvatron,
Thanks for the compliment Guys.. Being able to capture natural beauty from someone like her on the camera is always a great experience. Like I’ve said before.. this is a heck of a great hobby to have.
March 4, 2008 at 4:04 am
Hi Taras,
“she’s at peace with herself”
Yup you nailed it..
And I can personally verify this keen observation on your part very well.
March 4, 2008 at 4:20 am
Taras – Yes, that’s where her beauty comes from. GL is right, you nailed it. Every American woman I see is at war with herself, and therefore at war with men. And that makes them ugly, inside and out.
March 4, 2008 at 4:27 am
Thanks for posting the beautiful pics of Russian Women. She has a look of sweet innocence in those pics.
I am currently trying to get my online businesses in order so that I can travel the FSU this summer.
Please let her know that yes there are very beautiful women here. But a beautiful women with ugly personality is still ugly.
March 4, 2008 at 6:43 am
She is absolutely gorgeous, and I`ve always had a thing for redheads.
By the way, tts hard to eat breakfast when your jaw drops. Very messy 🙂
March 4, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Awww, what a cutie! All of you are right, her beauty is internal as well as external. Nick, I think you said it best: “a beautiful with an ugly personality is still ugly.” I don’t know why American girls think they have to look ugly. They seem to think that that will encourage men to look at their interior selves, but guess what — your interior self is ugly, too. (RW_man, tell her you know a babushka who said she’s a *very* beautiful girl!) 😉
March 4, 2008 at 2:40 pm
I’m relatively new here, visiting your great blog about that rare thing which is real traditional women.
I’ve had the pleasure of chatting (online) with a few ladies from the FSU and am always pleasantly surprised at their intelligence, grace, modesty, genuineness, and overall lovely demeanor. I am constantly stunned at how naturally beautiful these same girls are (once I look at the photos they took the time to email me) yet, unlike North-American women, they are down to earth and not “full of themselves”.
Clearly, Snejana can be added to the list of exceptional beauties we have discovered through your fabulous blog and to those I’ve had the pleasure of chatting online with.
Give my kindest regards and best wishes to Snejana for me, from Canada.
(ditto to you too, RW)
March 4, 2008 at 4:17 pm
She’s worried about… what, exactly? I cannot fault modesty, but I also cannot agree with her self-assessment. She is beautiful. Beautiful.
March 4, 2008 at 4:22 pm
You boys are always so unkind about the local Americans. I don’t know what hellish state you live in, but there is no shortage of pleasant, lovely, fun ladies in my vicinity. That there are a lot of Russian and Ukrainian immigrants around here may have something to do with it, but that would likely be overstating the case.
I do know a girl who could be Snejana’s dark-haired sister, oddly enough. Not quite so stunning as Snejana, but with the same sweetness radiating from her.
March 4, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Your certainly welcome Nick.
She was reading all the comments here earlier and she is certainly grateful for all of your validation.
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Andreas,
I hope it was still a good breakfast.. ROTFL. 🙂
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Mrs. Mutton,
You also have a good intuition about her that I can validate.. Thanks for your comments!
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Greetings Basta,
I’m happy to hear that you are in communication with some of these same traditional beauties from the FSU. Great to hear about your positive experiences with it too.
I know Snejana will also deeply appreciate your compliments about her as well.
Cheers..
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Hi Peregrine John..
I think she’s going through a bit of “growth period” now about feedback like yours.. but it’s all good 🙂
March 5, 2008 at 4:04 am
I just returned from working out at the gym. Nope..not one girl as attractive her. Poise, confidence, class. I’m excited knowing that I am going to make some beautiful Russian woman very happy as I will be able to lavish her with my love knowing I will get the same in return…unlike American scum women.
March 5, 2008 at 9:41 am
“American scum women”?
Matt, I don’t think any woman with poise, confidence or class should go for a man who expresses such nastiness.
Peregrine John — what a breath of fresh air. I love seeing a man who can acknowledge the beauty of one woman without having to denigrate another to do so.
March 5, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Dawn, I have never understood the idea of virtue/value as a zero-sum game. That is, one thing being excellent does not mean all else is crap. Moreover, I find that those who make hateful generalizations are usually pathetic excuses for humans (plenty of both genders fall into this), and unhappy no matter where they are. Why be one of that number?
The fact is that I love and adore women who love being women. Sure, one person will have more beauty, grace, wit, or whatever than another; but ah, the wonderful variety that brings!
March 6, 2008 at 4:30 am
Dawn, because your unhappy with yourself doesn’t mean you have to impune my OPINION of American women.
I stand my OPINION that American Women are SCUM. Yes that may not fit with your pretty view of the world, but that has no bearing on my reality.
Show me one wholesome American woman and I will show you 10 whom are not.
Why here’s a video proving my point perfectly: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=14a_1204469119&p=1
So again, your wrong in your assumption about me…you must have a whole library of books at home whose covers are the only thing you’ve read.
March 6, 2008 at 6:42 am
I agree. American women are scum because they way they are brought up in the feminist, man hating environment called America. I’ll go for feminine Russian women who treats a man well for being a real man anytime over American women who hates all men period due to her feminist brainwashing upbringing.
March 6, 2008 at 10:01 am
Peregrine John, please stick around. You are a civilizing influence
🙂
March 6, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Dawn, I’ll take your lack of rebuttal to my calling you out on your attack on me as your abdication.
I suppose your going to have to put up with some of us “uncivilized” American men on this board.
Hopefully your call for help to Peregrine John is answered in time……
March 6, 2008 at 4:06 pm
LOL You are very kind to me, but I have no pretensions of being a good influence even on myself! Some simply love to hate. It does something for them, as I can vouch, having dipped into that mindset myself very few years ago. Turned out to be not very good for my health. Reversing it was very good for me indeed, and much more fun! I’m still an incorrigible cad, in some folks’ view (and I share Matt and Evergreen’s disdain of those who thus overreact), but the fact is that I’m just exuberant and happy now. Seeing and reading about people who are stunningly beautiful and wonderful to interact with makes me soar.
This is way off-topic by now so I’ll leave it to the other commenters and hope for more pictures from our excellent host.
March 6, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Hey Matt, I totally agree with you. Couldn’t have said it better myself. 🙂
March 6, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Dear Snejana,
You asked “Why would they want to see me when I see so many beautiful girls in American films?”
The only thing that I can add to GL’s excellent article “Russian Women and the Hollywood Myth” (I almost missed the link in the indented paragraphs), is to tell you to look at your second picture.
Especially when you are not posing, you are absolutely dazzling and gorgeous! And when I look at you in that photo, it is so easy to see that there is very much more to you, and I find myself wanting to learn more about you.
Films are full of people who are pretty on the outside but turn out to be hollow on the inside. I want a woman with the qualities that make a man feel warm when he is with her, and that make him want to take care of her. That is why I am reading this outstanding blog, and why I am delighted that you decided to share you lovely presence with us.
And I truly hope that you will not try to become a model (at least not in the West), once you realize how beautiful you are. That industry steals and destroys the qualities that actually make women beautiful.
I hope that we will see many more pictures of you!
Best wishes,
Tom
March 7, 2008 at 6:05 am
Hi Everyone,
Somehow I knew this whole “Scum” comment would stir the pot up and I don’t think it’s in the best possible way.
Guys listen.. you may have strong feelings about American Women or Russian Women or Alien princesses from Mars..
But here’s the deal..
Logically speaking you and I both know that there is NO WAY that ALL Women from any particular country fit a fixed stereotype.
Sorry but it would be pretty idiotic to make any statement like this.
I’ve had my share of Feminist or Feminized Men for example stating that all Men who look at other women outside their own country are losers or scum and when that happens I usually don’t let them on because any debate with them would be a waste of time.
So what’s good for them in principal is also good for us too.
So please don’t use this blog as gathering place for any “I HATE These people..” speeches..
You can attack an idea, a characteristic, or a behavior.. But attacking a person let alone an entire group of people without attempting to give a more refined definition?
Or in simple terms let’s just say that being flat out prejudiced to someone isn’t going to fly with me.
This is certainly not the purpose of this blog and I hope that all of you by now can understand this.
So from here on out guys..
Let’s do our best to raise the level of our discussion and use this “scum” event as a catalyst to think more deeply. If you can’t do this then I’ll kindly ask you to disengage from this blog.
One last thing. One of my Russian Lady friends who’s been following this thread made an EXTREMELY good point.
She said a traditional girl would never date any Man who came across with this level of disdain or malice towards his own country-women no matter what the case was.
And you know what..
She’s absolutely right..
The women over here aren’t interested in how much you Despise other women..
They are only interested in how much you love them.
And any guy who’s not strong enough in character to drop the sword and pick up the flowers instead is going to find himself in a very lonely position here or anywhere else.
So there you have it..
All of you have everything to gain by staying on the right course and learning how to exercise a common sense level of discussion, self-control and of course diplomacy..
Thank you..
GL
March 7, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I want to say that the owner of this site is stating the utter truth. You sir are a scholar and a gentleman, my hat is off to you. 🙂 Your pictures of Snejana shows exactly her beauty and one can get the impression of what their inner beauty is all about.
I was in a marriage to a woman from East Texas. Long story short, we had, what I thought, was a good marriage. She ended up having two mental illnesses which destroyed our marriage. So, I waited until the divorce was done and started dating again. I found myself disgusted with the quality of women in America. I realized that there was always some sacrifice with getting into a relationship with these women and in general they did not have the attitudes I was looking for. So, I started looking into dating FSU(Russian) women. I am so glad I made that choice. The first Ukrainian I met, we ended up being together for a year. I traveled to Ukraine 3 times to see her and we met in London for a vacation. Even though it did not work out, I am still great friends with her. I still have all the wonderful memories of our time together and it is because there were no head games, no lies, no trickery, just an honest to goodness adult relationship. I learned so much from Diana and the warmth and feeling she exhibited was…..well, the most addicting thing in the world. I have seen mention of the “remote control” that Russian Women have over us and I can say it is true, but believe me when I say, it is a good thing. It was/is amazing how she supported me in bettering myself, but she did it in a way that completely positive. The weird thing is, I didn’t realize she was doing it. Lol. 🙂
I have since met a girl in Moscow for a week, but we simply did not have the chemistry. Once again, though, I absolutely enjoyed my time with Tanya. In two weeks, I am traveling to Nikolaev to see a single mom and I am pretty excited about going. She seems to be everything I am looking for and I can honestly say that I am very excited about possibly bringing her and her son to the US, should we find it appropriate. I would not mess with a single mom in the US for one reason…..they will never let you grow close to or be a father to their child. With the Ukrainian though, they have a completely different view, and the right one, of we should be a family and work together as two parents. One way or the other, I don’t talk to American women anymore, simply because I just don’t see them the same way. Whether it works out for me with this trip or if I have to make 50 more, I will find her. Russian women are the most intelligent, most beautiful, most feminine women in the world! Period, end of discussion.
March 7, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Hi Brandon442,
Thank you kindly for your compliments and I’m very happy to know that this site is meaningful to you in different ways.
Your previous marriage sounds like what lots of guys tell me.. Some American woman who probably watches too much Oprah and self-medicates herself into an actual mental illness she may not have really had to begin with.. oh well you get the point even if this may or may not apply to your past situation.
I’m happy to know that you’ve had the ability to travel to Russia or the Ukraine a few times and to discover for yourself what I’m saying here.
Always great to receive some backup validation on that so please continue with your impressions 🙂
You are the first guy who’s actually noticed and commented on the “Remote Control Unit” that good Russian Women will have on their men.
I actually find it incredibly refreshing to have that level of trust in my loved one as she guides me along in the guardian angel way that she does.
So it’s great to know that there’s another guy out there like yourself who knows what I’m talking about.
What’s really cool is that you’ve been able to maintain a friendship with the ladies you’ve dated in the past. I’ve had that experience too and again this is completely unlike the fake “let’s be friends” send off that you often get in the US or the West. These women are genuine and seem to always be glad that you are their friend.
Now how can you beat that?
Oh well I’m sure I’m preaching to the choir here but it’s still fun.. 😉
GL
March 7, 2008 at 8:57 pm
My ex wife actually had a personality disorder that was instilled in her as a child with reactive depression, but hey I did what I should have and tried to help her for 8 years living a phone marriage and then a year and half trying to still help her get well. So, I can look myself in the mirror and know I did everything. 🙂 Most people think I am dating Russians because of my ex, which is not true. I choose this path because of dating some American women and being utterly dissatisfied. I made this choice because it was right for me.
I have a friend that I introduced to this and he is visiting Ukraine for the first time in 5 days. I can’t wait for him to get back, hear the stories, and see his happiness. I also have another friend who I introduced it to, and I ended up having to tell him that this was not something he should be doing. He simply was not willing to learn the cultural differences and really sadly, he was looking for more of an American attitude in a women.
My travels to Kiev, Moscow, and Kazan were awesome! Money well spent and I would spend 5 times what I spent
March 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm
I hit submit by accident. Lol. 🙂
My travels to Kiev, Moscow, and Kazan were awesome! Money well spent and I would spend 5 times what I spent. The memories I have are simply priceless. How many Americans can say they stood in Red Square, in front of St. Basils, with a hot black haired blue eyed Russian, with the snow coming down, and drinking hot tea. 🙂
Oh, I will back you up in a heart beat. Russian women are simply in a league of their own.
The thing about the remote control is that there is no easy way to explain it. I found myself wanting to improve my professional certifications, etc., way more than ever before. I couldn’t figure out why and then it dawned on my it was her. The proof is in the facts. I was with my ex for 7-8 years and did not get any professional certifications. I was with Di for a year and I obtained 2 IT security certifications (CISSP and GSEC) and my TS clearance. I recently changed jobs for a 30K raise plus profit sharing. Obviously it was improving myself, but it all started with her doing whatever it is was she did to help me realize what I needed to be doing. Its not that she changed me, it was more that she helped me be the best I can be. 🙂 In fact, I sent her congratulations for women’s day tomorrow.
I honestly believe that the reason why me and the two I have dated have remained friends is because there is no lies, bs, or head games, just a true adult relationship. Thus, the relationship was able to evolve into a good friendship when we decided a romantic relationship was not in the cards. It is very nice because I get to keep all the nice memories plus have a good friend. Something, I can’t say for the 7-8 years of wasted time with my ex. You can’t beat it!
lol….I get rather long winded when talking about these wonderful women. 🙂
March 7, 2008 at 11:41 pm
RW_Man’s not only right about Russian women, but women everywhere. Statements that all women are scum are the last thing a woman worth talking to wants to hear.
Taras
March 7, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Oh my god , Beautiful …..
March 7, 2008 at 11:45 pm
I wish to visit a nice lady like she ……
March 8, 2008 at 1:42 am
Very sweet indeed RW Man.
😉
March 23, 2008 at 10:50 pm
It has been a while since I came on and looked at the pictures of these wonderfully attractive women. Today, as I was looking outside and thinking of what is still missing from my rather complete life, I decided to come back here for a bit.
While looking at the images of Snejana and trying to grasp the feeling she expressed about Hollywood beauty verses her own, I felt my heart ache. It moved me to think that there is a place on Earth where such a gentle smile might not be appreciated. I felt sad that she does not have someone in her life to tell her each day how deep and lovely her eyes are or how they seem to call you in like the sirens and mermaids called to ancient sailors. What a tragedy it is that no one reminds her constantly how a beauty such as hers will never be duplicated in some Hollywood feature.
Snejana, it is from years of experience as a professional photographer that I can say this with confidence and surety; there are few women in the world who posses the natural, unspoiled beauty I see in you. I also wish to echo the comment from Tom a couple of weeks ago and say that I hope you do not seek a career in modeling. Though it may rob the world of your images, it is better than seeing you robbed of the charm you now have. My warmest regards to you.
March 24, 2008 at 3:43 am
Hi Richard,
“What a tragedy it is that no one reminds her constantly how a beauty such as hers will never be duplicated in some Hollywood feature.”
Now you know why I really pushed hard to get her photos done.. 🙂
March 25, 2008 at 3:49 am
Snejana is beautiful!
You can’t find ANYTHING like that in american, not even close. You might try, but could never duplicate a creature as beautiful and sweet as a Russian woman.
I definately relate to Rod!
March 25, 2008 at 10:47 am
Hello Everyone,
Had a nice talk with Snejana yesterday and she wanted to thank all of you for the great encouragement you’ve been giving her.
This has been a very pleasant surprise for her.
Tom and Richard..
She wanted me to give you here sincere appreciation and to tell you that she has no intentions of every being a model.
She’s a very gifted translator who speaks 3 languages fluently and she plans on casting her future along this path.
GL
March 27, 2008 at 2:12 am
I have a couple things to say…
First of all, this girl is beautiful on the inside and out. She seems like a wonderful person.
Second, I am really taken back by the general attitude men have towards American women on this site. I see a lot of comparisons saying “Hollywood women need perfect angles to look this beautiful” etc. How about the beautiful every-day women that exist in America that are just like these girls?
When I see the pictures of these Russian girls, I would never know they were Russian if it wasn’t said on this site. They look just like the beautiful girls I see running around the U.S. that you guys consider inadequate.
Or reading, “you’ll never find girls like this in America.” I have wholesome friends who look just like these girls and guys don’t give them a chance because they’re “nice girls.”
I can’t believe people saying that America has NO good women. This just blows me away. Sure, the overall attitude of women may not be so great, but if you just open your eyes, you’ll find women like the ones on this site all around you.
I know so many women who look just like the girls on this site, who are beautiful on the inside and out and guys don’t give them a second glance.
You men say that you’re looking for these wholesome girls, but all of the wholesome girls in America sit at home at night while their potential dates are either out with easy girls or leaving comments on the internet about how all American girls are scum.
After reading some of the comments on this site, I would have no self-esteem just because I’m from America if it wasn’t for the fact that I have some self-respect and I know I’m not anyone that I should be ashamed to be.
That’s all I have to say.
…oh and I know the editor of this website corrected the guy who called American girls scum but I’m just talking about the attitude and views on this site in general.
February 21, 2010 at 7:53 am
I would agree. It is not a zero sum game. If you like one thing, why does that make something else inferior or worthless? It is as ridiculous as saying that I love Italian cuisine, and it makes Mexican Cuisine seem like road kill and worthless by comparison. It is as absurd a conclusion as some of the “all or nothing” comments made by some people her about American versus Russian women. I doubt that Russian women would find such comments edifying.
March 27, 2008 at 9:28 am
Have to agree with Brook.
Though I never understood how one can “Look like a wonderful person.”
From the picture you can’t judge of someone’s manners, intellect, morals, sence of humor. All you can see is how the person LOOKS (roughly, cos some people look totaly different in photos).
Secondly I never understood what kind of happy family-to-be all you gentlemen are talking about when you can’t communicate with your wife properly. At least for the first a couple of years, untill she learns English because it will take you 5 years to learn Russian.
My housekeeper in London was a Russian woman from Latvia, who was married to an Englishman. And as he confessed his happy marriage came to an end the day she opened her mouth and spoke English to him.
Kisha
March 27, 2008 at 9:51 am
Hey Brooke,
I am not disagreeing with you completely so hopefully we can both keep our defenses down. I am one of the men who has been reading these comments again lately and adding a few of my own. I would love an open sharing of ideas.
My career has allowed me to meet many, many women throughout North America as well as other places. Believe me I would love to meet ‘the girl next door’ in my own country, but I have seen so much in my personal and professional life in regards to the attitudes towards ‘dating and mating’ that I have started to investigate the possibilities elsewhere.
There are millions of beautiful and wonderful women in this world and they don’t all live in the FSU. There are attractive people on every continent that I have set foot on and there are people with bad attitudes towards members of the opposite sex everywhere as well. I think the clear consensus on this site is that NA men are tired of so much emphasis poured over the outside and yet so much arrogance and selfishness underneath. To me it’s the basic lack of dignity and self respect that NA women have now which has so many men considering their options, and especially any man who is mature enough to be done with all of the drama and games.
If Gloria Steinem, Jane Fonda, Oprah and Dr. Phil knew what the heck they were talking about with all of this ‘me first’ b.s., we wouldn’t likely be here reading this blog tonight. Being a couple is not about how to be ‘me’ but rather how to be an integral part of ‘us’ and that is key to why NA men are looking at these FSU women so longingly. The slightest hope of not having to be in competition with their mate is sexy and attractive and desirable. Not only FSU women but women from several other countries still believe that the objective for each partner is to please the other person first and in every way imaginable. By the way, a sensible, mature man should be thinking the same thing.
You are absolutely right that there are lots of pretty women here in NA and I’m sure many are very nice people as well, but as an entertainer for several years and a professional photographer for most of my life, I can tell you that in NA I have found the correlation between a woman’s beauty and her self serving attitude are almost measurable. The prettier they are the more attitude they carry around, and even if it is somewhat justified by the experiences in their life, it is still very un-attractive. And I know that isn’t all of the time and with all pretty women but if it were not happening so often, again, we probably wouldn’t be here.
Also, let’s be completely honest here, many NA guys deserve that NA kind of woman and everything that goes with them. I know some very successful men who show so little respect to the women in their lives that it makes me wonder why any intelligent gal would give them the time of day, yet they are the guys that most of those lovely, sexy NA women are attracted to. So if you can explain the ‘pretty women being attracted to jack ass men’ thing for me, then I for one will continue to search for happiness here at home.
Men and women are not from different planets but thank God we are different. A mature and loving relationship can not exist when one person is focusing on ‘what’s in it for me’. The ethical background regarding marriage and family in the FSU and some other countries makes NA look like a wasteland. Sad but true. Anything that can give us guys some hope for ending that cycle is worth a shot in my book.
Warm thoughts and best wishes to you for now,
Richard
March 27, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Richard
Thanks for such a thoughtful post. One part on which I would love to hear more of your thoughts — or anyone else’s — is the bit about competition with one’s partner.
You wrote:
“The slightest hope of not having to be in competition with their mate is sexy and attractive and desirable.”
RW_man has also written similar things in the past.
Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean? How have your past partners been competitive with you? Do you always see it as a negative thing, or are there times when it’s positive? For example, if you’re playing chess against someone who is (or who you suspect is) playing to lose, this would irritate a lot of people. I’m guessing the issue you raise goes deeper than this sort of thing, though. Finally, are you someone who naturally enjoys competition outside your relationship?
Genuinely interested — please don’t interpret this as arguing with you, I’m just trying to understand this one.
Dawn
March 27, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I have had no experience with the Russian culture, but my husband tells me that the family culture and attitudes in the US differ drastically from all European countries, most notably Eastern Europe. Since I have had a chance to visit Eastern Europe, I will tell you that in general, social life is much better over there for the following reasons:
People are generally better educated.
They exude their genuine character – nothing fake.
They take better care of their appearance.
They look alive and involved in their environment – not spaced out to the their portable entertainment systems.
Family – not industry/career is paramount.
Chivalry and feminity is cherished, not discouraged.
While I completely agree that there ARE wonderful single women in the US – a few good friends come to mind – I think this website is looking at proportions. Unless you have been blessed with social connections that put these wonderful American girls in your way, your likelihood of finding them is very slim because they are so few. And I believe that there are enough young men around not willing to travel internationally for a bride – they’re not being robbed of their future mate.
I wonder if the story about the gentleman from the UK is really a fair anecdote, considering that this site encourages men to become conversant in Russian before setting foot in the country?
About competition with a mate: surely you have noticed the tendancy in our society in the US to pit the wife against the husband. What about the fact that nearly all commercials on television depict the man of the family as an idiot child while the wife stands smirking on her superior knowledge and know-how? What about all the sitcoms depicting situations in which the man must become obedient to his wife or accept her superior intelligence or earning power? What about all the reality shows that pit wife against husband to find out who is smarter, has the most skills, is better looking, is more fulfilled in their role OUTSIDE the family? Do you think that this has no affect or it does not mirror what is going on in real families?
I am currently working in an industry that allows me to observe hundreds of couples, and I am very sad to say that there is a prevailing attitude of…competition! The couple is constantly at war for first place, for the lead of the family.
Then I observed couples in Eastern Europe. Harmony. The woman very feminine in her attitudes, soft, understanding, gentle, the man taking the lead (as men naturally will do if not hen-pecked all his life) and protecting as needed.
I have seen too much of the masculine being deformed and mocked and villified in this culture to want to discourage men finding happiness where they can.
March 27, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Dawn,
Thank you for the comments. I don’t feel it is argumentative at all. This is just communication; something we all need to practice more often.
Regarding competition in a relationship, I must say that the post which follows yours, from “doamna” has hit many of the major points as I see them. Particularly speaking of the media and its overt emasculating of American men.
In a game of chess, pool, Monopoly or whatever, I enjoy a woman (or anyone else) who plays to win. That does not mean I like to play against people who enjoy seeing others lose. There IS a difference. Trying to win a game is just common sense, but seeking to annihilate the opposition is a form of psychosis.
The modern North American dogma is to instill a sense of superiority in women rather than equality. I was an outspoken advocate for women’s rights in the very beginning of the ‘movement’ but only for a very short time. I believe in equal pay for equal “performance” but not as a handout based on gender. Affirmative action and quotas in the workplace degrade and devalue everyone involved and that is the sort of thing ‘new women’ demand. (Granted it has slowed some in the past 5 years or so but it is a case of the damage having already been done for 20 years before) Once I saw the clear objective of the whole ‘lib’ thing I went 180 on it. The cry of equality was a public facade for the agenda of pummeling men of position into some level of submission. Angry, outspoken women like Steinem and Fonda wanted to enlist this ‘army’ of newly empowered feminists to fully replace the status quo. A very typically NA attitude to never try fixing anything without turning it equally as bad in the other direction.
While most intelligent men (myself included I hope) enjoy women who are thoughtful and articulate, we don’t care much for someone who challenges our every idea and action. A husband who makes even the most basic financial decision on his own these days is chastised and depicted as a controlling, power playing jerk. The fact that a good marriage might actually mean the couple knows and trusts each other is apparently irrelevant. The political incorrectness of his actions has already labeled the man as insensitive to his wife’s needs and desires to the point of denying the man could have any needs or desires of his own. When I make decisions in the best interest of my family it is after I have considered the family as a whole, my partner’s thoughts and feelings and the appropriateness of acting in a timely manner.
That doesn’t mean that ‘Bob’ is right to go out and buy a new $12,500 fishing boat while ‘Susan’ is at work and then try to justify it all by saying the family will all enjoy the boat come summer. However if Bob and Susan have a good marriage and they’ve been budgeting and discussing a new boat for the family and are agreed that this is the year to get one, Bob has no way ‘violated’ Susan if he happens along a supreme deal and jumps on it without calling her first to ask if it’s okay, provided he has stayed pretty much within the range they were already considering. But in a modern scenario it would be likely that Susan would get all pissed off and go out and spend $300 on a new spring dress to ‘get even’ with Bob for his decision to grab the deal on the boat.
It is very discouraging to watch the perpetuation of these attitudes by the majority of NA women while hoping to find someone to share a life with. For me as a single dad with an 8 year old daughter I have to be more vigilant than ever to make sure my little girl isn’t poisoned by the anti-male propaganda and still keep her able to trust and appreciate men for their strengths and purpose in life. My daughter heard a radio commercial last week and said, “Daddy, why are they making that dad sound so stupid?”
She’s EIGHT and she ‘gets it’ without being told what’s wrong with the commercial.
Almost every radio commercial, print ad, TV sitcom, game show, and everything else depicts men as barely smart enough to get dressed in the morning while at the same time showing women as brilliant and resourceful in any situation or environment. It is a very intentional attack on men as a whole and has become the thing that our children are being inundated with. What is the message for them? If it were an innocent misunderstanding which happened occasionally rather than a constant daily pounding by advertisers seeking to cash in on the frustrations of a small segment of NA women it might be seen differently. Any ads and programs that portray women in the same demeaning way violate federally mandated discrimination regulations. What about places like ‘Curves’ for women which is fine, but a men’s only gym is illegal? Where is the equality in that?
To go a step further regarding competition, there is the marital bed. At what point is it stated that only a woman can decide how, when and how often to be intimate? My ex would only have intimacy on her terms and time table once we were married, yet the number one complaint she stated in divorce court was that I was controlling.
When we had initially discussed marriage I told her that my finances were sufficient that she need not work if she didn’t want to. At the point when she chose (entirely without any discussion about it) to go back to work, I helped out by mentioning any openings that I heard of in her area of career choice and once she was back at work I would fix her breakfast and warm up her clothes in the dryer before she got dressed. She never asked for or demanded those courtesies; I did it because I was interested in her happiness.
Gratitude being another concept which seems foreign to NA women . . . .
One Thursday I sent my wife flowers at work. She was totally surprised, excited and was the envy of all the girls in her office since there was no special occasion. The following Thursday I happened to see a beautiful arrangement in a flower store window with a sign that said “50% Off all large vase arrangements”. I went in and bought it for her and had it delivered to her office. She was stunned and happy to get flowers again for no particular reason. It just happened that the next Thursday we were going to dinner with one of her friends from work. My wife seemed moody and upset while we were getting ready and then at the restaurant I found out from the friend’s husband that my wife was angry because she didn’t get her ‘Thursday flowers’ that day. All of the sudden I wanted to never again send flowers to my wife’s office for any reason what-so-ever.
I like flowers. I think they are a nice way to say, “Have a wonderful day”. Recently I was in a Safeway near Seattle and saw an in store Starbucks. The girl working there was a Russian immigrant in her mid twenties, average looking, named Mila and I caught from her conversation with another person from Safeway that this girl was working alone for the day because the person assigned to work with her never showed up. I ordered my coffee and chatted with the Mila for a bit. She told me that Mila was short for Ludmila and she had only been in the US for about six months. She was very pleasant and her attitude seemed to be totally unaffected by being left to run the place alone that day. When I left I went over to the floral department and bought a small bud vase with a lavender colored Orchid in it. I took the flower over to Mila at the Starbucks counter and gave it to her telling her I appreciated her nice smile and good spirit. She began to cry which stunned me momentarily then she said that nobody had ever given her a flower before. It amazed me that such a personable, young woman had never in her life been given a single flower. Somehow, I think this total stranger had more appreciation for the small gesture than my ex-wife ever did. And I think it is to some extent a cultural thing.
If there is a specific point to this novel I am writing here, it is simply that most real men are looking for the kind of values that families are built on and definitely not the current NA view that one person in a couple ‘has’ to be superior somehow.
I look forward to seeing more of your thoughts and ideas. All the best for now,
Richard
March 27, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Dawn,
It’s really different from the chess game or tennis game. They are just games for friends or family having fun together.
What people’s comments about competition between men and women really mean…
When women rejects her feminine nature, which is nurturing, caring, soft, understanding and gentle, and embraces masculine nature, which is competing, being tough and strong, having the balls to stand up and face criticism… The disastrous consequences follow…
As a result, the relationship becomes two “men” fighting each other for who is in the charge. It’s like a power struggle between two genders where it becomes more like two “men” struggling for who is in the charge of the family.. providing, protecting and who makes the final decision for the family. It’s exactly what doama said about competition.
The real harmony of marriage between man and woman is like ying-yang. Masculine energy and feminine energy are mixed together into one unit for a true balance and harmony. Usually, it’s the man being a leader establishing the standard for marriage and family, provider and protector, and the woman being a comforting, nuturing, warm, gentle, understanding person while taking care of the family and household matters.
When women rejects the feminine nature and embraces the masculine nature, the relationship becomes “ying-ying”.. the relationship becomes one-sided, no real balance and harmony between men and female. It becomes a power struggle for who’s the leader of the family. It’s not natural and healthy. It’s one of causes for the high divorce rate in the US.
It’s a way of a couple working together in harmony. Sort of like a team working together to make things happen. The last thing the relationship needs is an egoistic struggle like arguing “I’m right, you’re wrong!” and focusing on what’s best for me, me, me instead of focus on what’s best for the couple and family.
The common mentality of “me, me, me” and what’s best for me instead of “what’s best for ‘us’ and our family?” is so rampant among American women as well as common lifestyle of partying, drinking, whoring around, being on the drugs and so on. It’s the reason why many men are looking elsewhere to find a real lady who is suitable for having a family with.
March 27, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Hi Dawn,
Check out this previous post to get a better understanding of this..
Thanks, GL
March 27, 2008 at 9:28 pm
I understand what everyone is saying. I agree that there seems to be far more superficial women in the US than not. It just seemed like some of the comments on this site took it to SUCH an extreme.
And to Kisha, I’m not sure what I said but I thought I said that she “seems” like a wonderful person, not “looks” like a wonderful person. If not, that’s what I meant to say. And what I meant is that by what the editor said about how humble and sweet she is, she seems like a great person.
March 28, 2008 at 4:08 am
I see it as kind of a purging and acceptance stage for most of the guys here when they first arrive… many have been hurt and bear a heavy weight that they need to lift. I’ve done it, I’m quite bitter with a lot of social norms here in the US and I’ve taken advantage of having a place to say it. Men come here with stories to tell and we listen with open ears to their plights. All we seem to have is eachother here, so many american men just accept the status quo and just accept it… except for us few…
For the longest time I felt a disconnect with western society that I couldn’t quite identify. One night I googled Russian Women and listed high up on the ranks was “russian women – the real truth,” My life has honestly changed since then. GL has really brought to life the missing pieces for me. I think their is a small population of men, like those who are here now, that truly see what has happened to our society. They see that there is something that is incredibly wrong, that is out of balance.
If/when I have children I would pour my heart and soul into making sure that they were raised to the best degree that I could do so. I would sacifice everything for them, without a second thought. Yet I see so few women that would be willing to do the same here in the US…
Would I prefer to be able to find a wonderful wholesome woman that would be a wonderful wife and mother of my children in my home town? Yes, I would whole heartedly agree to that. Do I honestly think I would be able to find this woman here? No… Really I have tried and there is nothing… I would love to think that there is a wonderful woman here, that doesn’t have baggage already, that is accepting of herself, that would love nothing more than to be a loving wife and mother that I could treasure for the rest of my life. American women in general really fail at this, they just do. Almost every American, man and woman, has been brought up with a “me first” attitude. “ME, ME, ME” overrides our culture like nothing else and heaven forbid you upset that.
It would not suprise me in the least to find out that GL has a general disconnect with American society in general, why else would he have made his journey in the first place? I’m sure it is similiar to the disconnect I feel as well, there’s something fundamentally wrong with our society. I feel it and see it everyday. I really don’t blame any person in particular, but there is blame in acceptance. Every day I feel stronger and more liberated from our society, which makes me feel more alienated and distant from eveyone around me.
I am literally willing to give up all I have to live in a traditionally society. Money, posessions, they no longer have meaning to me. I truly believe in “love conquers all.” A man with nothing but a wonderful women that truly loves him with all her heart is worth so much more than any material posessions or amount of money that you could put before him. I want to experience true love, the kind that money, corporate latters, or 60 hour workweeks can’t eclpise. My goal has gone from having the fastest car or the biggest house to simply being able to save enough money to make it over to someplace such as GL describes so that I could find a real women that I could truly love and would feel the same way towards me.
There are extremes here Brooke, there should be. The wounded soldiers have come back to camp around the campfire and are telling their stories of battle. They have learned from their past experiences, and are prepared to take the steps needed to not fall into the same traps again.
I really, truly, feel that this is where true happiness exists, not with money or posessions or social status. We’re talking about love here gentleman and ladies, real love and happiness that I personally feel that I won’t be able to find here in the US or any “western, modern” society. The kind that has simply been lost in western society, it’s left us here. Western Feminism has taken it’s toll here gentlemen, and true, genuine, wholesome love is it’s victim.
May 5, 2008 at 1:38 am
Brooke,
You wrote:
Or reading, “you’ll never find girls like this in America.” I have wholesome friends who look just like these girls and guys don’t give them a chance because they’re “nice girls.”
Normally I do not post or get involved in Internet discussions, but I have to pipe in on this one.
I don’t think anyone is saying women in the States are in any way all physically unattractive (more inside emotionally unattractive) but what you wrote about guys not giving women a chance because they are “nice girls” I think is directly contrary to what the guys here are saying.
What the men are saying is that as men we WANT and SEEK girls that are “nice girls.” It has been my personal experience, however, that along with all the other points many have made re: feminism, that generally while men try to find good, nice girls, girls don’t give men an opportunity or chance– nice or not. All a man wants and needs is a good, nice girl, that will allow a man to be a man and a woman to be a woman. The genders are different for a reason — because we each have strengths and weaknesses that the other gender compliments.
My own experience is that, as a “nice guy” is that no matter what state of mind the woman is in; be it a “nice girl” or “good girl” or you eluded to “easy girls”, all the women that I have met don’t want the same qualities in a man then a man wants in a woman — which are niceness, decentness, etc. It’s a mathematical fact! Proven by the fact that any and all women can find a man, any man she wants, but the only men that I see being successful with women (good, easy, whatever) are “bad boys.”
If there are “good girls” out there, Brooke, and they want a good guy, there is no shortage of good guys wanting to find them. But anytime a good guy comes the way of any girl in our Western society, the woman naturally pushes them away or sabotages any chance of anything meaningful.
And I think in the end, guys here are just saying that in other parts of the world — non Western societies, woman do not behave that way and actually give us good guys and nice guys a chance and welcome our qualities and traits and our moral views.
That’s my $.02 anyway.
May 19, 2008 at 4:59 am
Probably the most beautiful smile ever seen. she looks calm. i love her redhead and most of all, the way she smiles. say hello to Snejana. hope to see her again.
July 6, 2008 at 5:44 am
Hermosa. Simplemente hermosa.
Me sorprende que teniendo unos bellos ojos azules, un bonito y rojo cabello y una encantadora sonrisa sea tan modesta, muchas chicas no son así.
Saludos a Snejana y al igual que alfredo esperamos verla de nuevo.
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sorry if my english is wrong
Beautiful, just beautiful.
Iam surprised because althought she has a beauty blue eyes a pretty red hair and a charming smile she is so modest. Many girls are not like her.
Greetings to Snejana and As Alfredo said we hope to see her Again.
July 6, 2008 at 11:08 am
I’m gonna go aginst the grain of beating round the bush a little and just cut to the chase. She’s HOT!!
July 6, 2008 at 2:00 pm
You are completely right Sunny this country has bankrupt it’s self morally to a point that marrying a women here is fiscal/mental suicide. To shed some more light on this I am currently reading a book done by a women here in the states. The book is called “Save the males” I recommend every that has a chance to read it. The author Kathleen Parker lists in great detail of how our western society is experience higher than ever divorce rates, kids with problems in school and social life, and women who delude themselves that men are unnecessary to a child’s development. The book also depicts Our family court systems as a joke that solely caters itself to women on the bias that “Women are good, and men are bad”. These days a man can be striped of his children, house (“That he worked so hard to provide for”) and his entire life’s income on the bases that his wife has filed for divorce and has now found either another man or is looking for another man to meet her needs what ever they mean be.
Men in this country are given the burden but never any reward. You are dead on Sunny why should we stay here to fight it out on a losing battlefield. And Yes Men this is a war. And the feminist movement have made that very clear. If you men don’t believe me get married, you will have a 66% chance that is now climbing that you will get a divorce. And just wait and see how fairly you are treated.
July 15, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Hi everyone!
I want to thank all of you for the comments that you made on my photos. I read the comments with a great pleasure and really appreciate each of them. Please keep on doing it!
Snejana.
February 21, 2010 at 8:32 am
Thank you for coming here.
July 15, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Welcome aboard Snejana!
Thanks for joining us. I’m sure there are many people here who have really enjoyed your photos as you can read 🙂
Please visit us again soon!
GL
July 25, 2008 at 3:35 am
Hello Snejana,
I am very happy to see you on here. Hopefully the many comments on you beauty have not made you uncomfortable.
Will you be sharing your thoughts and ideas about the young women in your region and the interest they are getting from North American men? Certainly our host has a good deal of experience to share after meeting so many beautiful girls over there, but he is not one of those girls so I think maybe your words would be quite valuable.
Does it seem to you that there is too much attention being shown for the young Russian women by men from the west? Is it often that you and your friends discuss meeting foriegn men with the hope of one day building a life with one of them?
While I have found and photographed many beautiful women in my life, I have also seen that the nature and attitude of those women varies greatly depending on where I am in the world. How do you feel about the values and morals of women in your country compared to the values and morals of women elsewhere?
I am very anxious to hear your thoughts.
Warmest regards for now,
Richard
July 25, 2008 at 12:54 pm
You’re very welcome Snejana……:-)
Taras
July 29, 2008 at 7:45 pm
hello, Richard.
You raised some good questions. Hopefully i can answer all of them.
Now i am on vacation in Europe and this is an extremely good experience for me. Maybe you will be surprised but i can say that i never got as much attention at where i live as i get here. West world is really crazy and a little srtange for me. Women don’t have make-up, don’t wear skirts and high heels and at the same time men are too feminin. They have their hair styled and nails done. Sometimes it’s difficult to tell women from men and this is absolutely impossible in my home country.
Do i discuss with my friends meeting with foreign men? Yes i do. But to be perfectly honest with you i will never go to any agency to find a man. NEVER. Building a life with a foreigner has many aspects both good and bad. And some difficulties as well. But if you both are ready to face them if you have enough experience, wisdom, patience and high level of understanding one another you can overcome everything together. This is my point of view.
Morals and values are absolutely different in my country and in the west. The simplest example is that russian women cook for their men, clean the house and look after children without any nanny. From what i know western women don’t do it. Another point is that russian women usually got married at the age of 20-25. And if they have a choice between marriage and carrier they won’t hesitate a second. If a russsian woman doesn’t have children at the age of 25 it means that she is not a “normal” woman.
So i can continue and continue…
If you have more questions please feel comfortable to ask me.
Best regards.
July 29, 2008 at 8:30 pm
“Women don’t have make-up, don’t wear skirts and high heels and at the same time men are too feminin. They have their hair styled and nails done.”
Hi Snejana,
Yes West is quite a strange place now, the term which describes the men you’ve seen is Metrosexual and the other term is Androgynous which is when you can’t really tell if a person is a man or a woman.
The past 20 years have had a generally negative effect on how men and women see themselves. Girls are now taught how to be “men” in order to succeed, and boys and young men are taught to be gender confused(or should I say gender defused) by the strong women around them and to be submissive(they call it sensitive) to the needs of the women around them. They are also taught to fear women because if they do even the slightest thing wrong or say the wrong thing in public, the feminists will punish them severely under the law.
I sincerely hope that Eastern Europe and Russia not to mention the rest of East/South Asia are not infected by the feminist disease which has crippled the West. At least from what I’ve read there is a better form of equality in Russia then exists in the western world these days.
To give you an idea of how crazy things are now, there are a growing number of men and women in the US who are single and some have never and will never marry. It is estimated there are around 90 million single people and its growing,
see this link http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/007285.html
Not all of it is due to feminism but a think a large part is caused by some form of feminist policy. Some of the smarter men such as GL have the sense to escape this sinking ship, I think more and more men are preparing to escape in the near future as well.
It’s just too bad, once upon a time the West was a nice place to live in a raise a family, but it hasn’t been so for the last 40 years.
July 30, 2008 at 2:12 am
Privet Snejana,
You mentioned: “But to be perfectly honest with you i will never go to any agency to find a man. NEVER.”
Can I ask you to expand on this; why is it not good for you to take this route. I heard often that usually the bad girls go to agency to find a man? How else would a man go about to meeting a nice Russian girl? And once we find one that we like, how to tell whether a girl is genuine and good for marriage or not?
Spaceba,
-M
July 30, 2008 at 9:55 am
“If a russsian woman doesn’t have children at the age of 25 it means that she is not a “normal” woman.”
What? I presume you speak on behalf of women in Siberia, because that can’t be applied for all Russian women.
July 30, 2008 at 9:09 pm
As a Western woman living in Europe I am completely baffled by all this “Western women don’t wear dresses, high heals or make up” talk. Right now I’m wearing all three and I see plenty of women all around doing the same…
July 30, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Maybe you should take a walk in a shopping mall or Wal Mart where I live Hazel. Sometimes I have to look several times to even hazard a guess if a particular individual is a man or a woman. But beware, you might feel like you’ve stepped into the Twilight Zone, where weird and wacky things can happen, and usually do.
Taras
July 31, 2008 at 5:37 am
Snejana,
Thank you for your reply and thoughts regarding my questions. I really appreciate the view of someone who is looking from the other side of the fence.
During my trips to Europe I found most local women to be uninterested in the attention of American travelers. One concierge in London told me it was because the locals knew we would only be there for a short time and then leave so it was not worth the effort to make an impression. But they also seemed less than excited about most of the local guys as well. In clubs we saw similar activity to that which we knew back home. The guys did all of the ‘work’ to mingle and the guys bought all of the drinks but at the end of the night not many phone numbers were exchanged and nothing that looked like serious interest had occurred.
Of course a few nights out in the city bars is no big test case but basically it just felt like the women in England, France and Italy were very much like the ones back home. The clear difference was meeting ladies in other social environments where intelligent conversations took place. That is where the women on your side of the Atlantic have a big advantage. It was easy to discuss world issues, art and entertainment, travel and personal goals with most European women. Back at home the biggest thing in the conversation was whether the lipstick was bought on sale or which Hollywood star was caught sleeping with someone else’s partner. When your friends are together, what sort of things do you think about and talk about?
Many of the people I know who have traveled to your region speak of a very different way of thinking about marriage and family. I remember what it is like to be family oriented and it has been a very long time since I have witnessed that frame of mind in North America. Few people here plan family life beyond several months or a couple of years. Mostly it is about ‘just getting by’ until something changes.
Though many NA women of various ages and backgrounds talk about their desire to have solid relationships and loving families, the simple reality is that most will only allow it under a stringent set of guidelines which are entirely based on a feminist agenda. It is not surprising that few men want any part of such an arrangement.
When you speak of the women in your country cooking and cleaning and raising children, I must ask how acceptable it is for a husband to be active with these things as well? I have had to be everything for my self and for my daughter and I have no problem helping with housework. I love to cook, don’t mind laundry and have no fear of dusting or cleaning. Would my help be welcomed by a Russian wife or might I be told to stay out of the way? I’m sure it sounds silly to some, but when I was a boy my mother would tell my father to do his own chores and leave to housework to her.
By the way, I am also interested in your comment regarding agencies. For someone in my position to just jump on a plane and spend a month or two in Russia to see if I might find romance is quite unrealistic. I am a single dad with a young daughter who has needs which are often ahead of my own, such as her education and her social and personal interests. It certainly would be a great adventure and maybe an equally rewarding experience to pack up and move for a while but there are commitments here that would be strained or lost in the process. If your thoughts on agencies are because they misrepresent the clients or are disrespectful to them please share your concerns. How might someone like me investigate the possibilities without such agencies?
I have enjoyed your comments greatly and look forward to more. Best wishes for now,
Richard
Regarding some of the other thoughts and comments;
Many women in North America do not wear skirts any more. In fact at a recent business meeting I attended there were 2 or 3 ladies who stood out like flares at midnight in a group of nearly a hundred people just because they were wearing dresses. If the modern version of professional attire in the west is slacks and pant suits, then what can be expected of the casual wear for the same area of the world? My last venture into a club was completely void of skirts, dresses or anything resembling them. Even the young, single and quite attractive women were all wearing jeans and only the 2 waitresses had on shorts because it was part of their work uniform. For Snejana to see women from the west on holiday in Europe and not see skirts, heels or make up doesn’t surprise me at all.
As for the men, well in BC, Canada and the greater Seattle and Portland areas, it is hard to find many men who have not yet succumbed to the emasculation process. I’m not just talking about fashion sense, either. My haircuts cost $12. I know men who spend more on one ‘styling’ than I do for a year of cuts. I was given a manicure once and it didn’t come close to impressing me, but not another soul on Earth noticed it either. I know men who have them done monthly. I also know a man who paid thousands of dollars for a ‘home make-over’ because he read that it would make women feel more ‘secure’ in his condo. Six years later; he’s still single, none of his friends ever go there because he doesn’t want to upset the ‘sense’ of the place and he’s still out all of that money. My house is where I live; not who I am, what I am or an insight into my soul. But that’s another whole story.
July 31, 2008 at 8:16 am
Hazel says: “As a Western woman living in Europe I am completely baffled by all this “Western women don’t wear dresses, high heals or make up” talk. Right now I’m wearing all three and I see plenty of women all around doing the same…”
I am with Hazel on this one. I live in Europe too and every woman I work with wears dresses (not every single day, but often), heels and makeup. And walking around the streets of my city right now probably over half the women are in beautiful summer dresses…
In the suburbs perhaps it is different — full time moms do tend to dress down. But in the city centres women usually look great.
July 31, 2008 at 8:18 am
Snejana
When you observe Western men spending time and money on their appearance, do you think this is a bit silly, or do you like it? I’m curious.
Dawn
July 31, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Hazel says: “As a Western woman living in Europe I am completely baffled by all this “Western women don’t wear dresses, high heals or make up” talk. Right now I’m wearing all three and I see plenty of women all around doing the same…”
well Hazel, maybe because it differs from standarts of Russian hills height/skirt length/and layers of makeup one actually does.
last time you saw anything like that?
July 31, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Maybe so. I must admit, shiny fabrics aren’t in fashion here. The make up doesn’t seem anything out of the ordinary, really.
Here’s some photos for you, then…
http://picasaweb.google.com/MissHazel/Mig/photo?authkey=oBptREvPoSU#5229177431203668306
July 31, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Hazel, you might have got me wrong, I’m not advocating that kind of style =) but its typical for many Russian women… thus compared to the image above western manner of dressing is often called *plain*.
P.S.
you look lovely.
July 31, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Kisha
You are right — where I live the woman in the photo you posted would not be seen positively.
Dawn
July 31, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Haha, yes, you’re right, I did misunderstand you. But yes, I think you’re probably right. I think many of the men I know would probably find the woman in that photo sexy, but not very stylish.
And thank you 🙂
August 1, 2008 at 11:47 am
Manoah
Trying to find a man through an agency is quite artificial for me. How else can you find a rissian girl? You can either find her at where you live (i’m sure there are many russian girls at university) or you can come to Russia/FSU and find thousands and thousands girls who are not appreciated by their men and who will be more than happy to meet a Real Man.
Kisha
Maybe my statement can’t be applied for all Russian women (because there are millions of them) but i am sure that the majority of women wants to have children before they reach the age of 25.
Let me give you an example. My cousine is 26. She is single and doesn’t have children. And she doesn’t have any chance to get marry because there is no man who will marry 26 year old woman if he can marry 18/20 year lady.
Two years ago she met a 32 year old guy. When he found out how old was she he said “I am only 32 and you are already 24. I better find another girl”.
Dawn
For me a man spending time and money on his appearance is quite strange. I don’t want my husband to have his hair tinted and i don’t want him to wear ear ring. Maybe not every girl thinks so it’s just my opinion.
Snejana.
August 1, 2008 at 11:56 am
Richard
Russian man helping with housework? You must be joking. Usually when a man returns from his work he sleeps on the sofa or reads a newspaper while his wife cooks (even if she returns later the he does).In my opinion a russsian woman would deeply appreciate your help and not just help but your desire to help her.
August 1, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Hello Snejana,
I think that it is a wonderful attitude like yours that makes everything good possible.
Although I do not enjoy housework, I would enjoy helping a woman like you. (And I do not think that this is an issue of masculine-feminine boundaries.)
It would be very important to me to reduce her stress and to make her feel protected, supported and valued. And I would especially enjoy engaging and connecting with her, irrespective of whether we were doing necessary chores or something more exciting.
There is a huge difference between merely doing the same thing at the same time, and the bond created by focusing on each other regardless of the activity.
Best wishes,
John
August 2, 2008 at 2:39 am
What we american seem to see that the Russian men miss is the big picture. If I help with cleaning it gets done faster and I get to spend more time with my princess. If I do a quick grocery run on my way home from work I get to save my girl a run to the store I’ll know she will appreciate it and in turn do more for me.
American men are naturally cultured to put all they can into a relationship. We are willing to sacrifice all to do this. Russian women are willing to sacrifice all to put into their realationship to make it work. 🙂 There is a incredible synergy that occures when both of these two meet. Both want nothing more than to see the realationship work, both want it to not only succeed, but excel.
August 2, 2008 at 9:57 am
Snejana,
Thank you for another wonderful perspective. If I read the words and keep your pictures in mind, I can almost hear you saying, “Russian man helping with housework? You must be joking”. The reality for many of us NA men is that we have never been afraid of helping out and John’s reply was exactly right when he said, “It would be very important to me to reduce her stress and to make her feel protected, supported and valued”.
Even though the women’s movement over here has always seen North American men just like the Russian men you have described, most men can handle shopping, cooking, laundry, child care and much more. The feminists who have condemned men in the past for their laziness and lack of support will now tell you that the only reason some men help out at home these days is because they have been forced to. Nothing is further from the truth. For generations women were mothers and homemakers and their husbands did a day job plus lawn work, car repair and whatever else was required. Most men were always involved with their children, helped out when and where it was needed and the world was comfortable.
I hurt inside for the women in your region if they can not find a man who wants to be the primary bread winner and still likes to help make their wife feel important at the same time. I guess that is why so many men like the ones on this site are so interested in getting together with the ladies there. The Bible calls it “being equally yoked” which really just means working together with common beliefs and goals. It shouldn’t be so hard to find.
Another very sad outcome from the feminist movement in NA has been the lack of dignity for our women. Where men once wrote poems to the women in their life (and some of us still do) now we know that there is no appreciation for such a heartfelt gesture. We prefer not to make the effort only to be looked down on for it. Even complimenting a woman over here is not comfortable any more because they act as if you are some kind of rapist or mugger because you took the time to say something nice. It really makes the men here want to avoid the result so much that they have nearly quit making the gestures at all. That, in my opinion, is a key way of evaluating someone’s level of dignity and self respect. If you compliment somebody and it makes them a bit shy or timid and maybe a little self conscious, it is a sign of humility and that’s good. But if they take the compliment and respond with something like, “Why’d you say that?” or “Oh, ya. Right.” then you know that they don’t even understand basic, common courtesy.
When I was a younger man I would avoid women who could not handle compliments, and women who lacked self respect and a sense of dignity. Now that I am older, and hopefully wiser, it would be a terrible mistake to start accepting those negative traits. As many other men have decided, it is better to be with no one than to be saddled with the burden of the average NA woman of today.
Thanks again, Snejana, for interacting with us here so that we can enjoy your thoughts and build our knowledge. Warmest wishes for now,
Richard
John and SunnyInSanDiego,
Great comments, great insights.
August 3, 2008 at 10:21 am
Snejana, I’m not really sure whether women are so eager to have children before they reach the milestone of 25 years when they are grey and old. In fact all my life in the country of Russia proved otherwise. This trend might not has reached the smaller towns but nowadays people tend to get married later. Even in the town of central Russia where my grandpa originates from they get married at 20 or 21 now and it used to be 17-18 ten years ago.
“Two years ago she met a 32 year old guy. When he found out how old was she he said “I am only 32 and you are already 24. I better find another girl”. Don’t suppose your cousin mourns over this guy? Im sorry, but thats so funny, because all the men I ever went out with were really relieved to hear that I was 22, 23, 24 and so forth, cos I never looked my age and on the other hand my very old age proved I wasn’t a bimbo.
August 3, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Richard
Being om vacation in Europe i’ve noticed that men are afraid of saying compliments to women. I can say by men’s looks that they are interested in me but noone ever tried to talk to me. The situation was different in Spain and France (comparing with Germany) where men feel comfortable to say some pleasant things. Also i can repeat one more time that men are too feminine in Europe. They look like women, they talk like women and they act like women. This is NOT normal.
Hazel
When i wrote down about skirts, make up and hills i didn’t want to offend european women. I just say what i can see around me. If you wear all three as you say i can only congratulate you because you know what to be really feminine means. It should be important for every woman because in my opinion being a Real Woman is one of the greatest gifts on earth.
Kisha
Maybe you are right and there is a trend to get married later. Let’s put it this way- for ME is normal to get married and have children at the age of 23-25. Is it better?:)
August 4, 2008 at 7:43 am
Snejana,
There is now another thing which I would like your thoughts on, if you don’t mind sharing.
Many of the men who watch this site and other sites about relationships are middle aged like me and it is commonly discussed that women in your region are much less interested age of a partner than they are in stability, support and building a strong family. I don’t have quite the same vision of finding a wife who is half my age, but at the same time I still have a strong interest in marriage and children. Is it very common to find unmarried women who are maybe in their late 30s or mid 40s but still have the traditional views on relationships and family? Because I am a divorced man I hold no fantasy about some young, never married beauty queen but I often think about a woman of experience and dignity who is ready to make a lifetime commitment. I know my young daughter would love to have siblings and I have always loved having children around.
Do you think the prospects in your country as reasonable for someone like me?
For several months last year I hosted a group of young adults in my home. It was a college and careers program set up through my church and the interactions I had with these people surprised me. While I felt there would be little for me to do beyond supplying the location it was soon apparent that my life experience was included quite often. I felt better with that group of people and felt I had more in common with them than I do with most people of my own age.
What thoughts do you have regarding a man who seeks women much younger than himself and is age a big deal to you and your friends?
Thank you once again for your recent responses.
Richard
August 4, 2008 at 8:43 am
Yes, Snejana that’s perfectly alright to set goals for yourself. 😉
August 5, 2008 at 1:19 am
Snejana,
I’ve asked this question of other Russian girls and I was wondering if you would answer it as well, How many of your friends are interested in marrying an American man, and how many would be willing to immigrate to the USA to be with an American man?
August 6, 2008 at 1:24 am
I imagine many Russian women would be interested in an American man willing to immigrate to their country and build a life and family with them there. I know some Russians and many of them seem to feel like a fish out of water here, especially the younger ones.
Taras
August 7, 2008 at 8:27 am
Snejana’s points on overly feminized men in Europe seems to be greatly backed up by this article.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/aug/03/gender.healthandwellbeing
In my mind the photos of the male models especially highlights the “ideal man” that the media is trying to shove down our collective throats.
*gag*
August 12, 2008 at 1:27 am
Richard,
I think the best answer i can give you is that everything depends on a person. I know girls who would love to marry an experienced wise man and i know girls who want to marry guys of the same age as well. You can find a 30-40 year old woman if you don’t mind a divorced woman with children. You can hardly find a woman of that age who has never been married. She either doesn’t want to or she has some problems. You can find a young girl too if you want to.
I wonder what you daughter thinks about you having a russian wife?
SunnyInSanDiego,
Being an interpreter i have many friends who speak english. Some of them want to immigrate to the USA and marry an american man. The situation is different among those who don’t know the language.
Snejana
August 12, 2008 at 5:04 am
Snejana,
Thank you for your thoughts and answers. I really appreciate your assistance.
Of course any man my age would love to be with a beautiful, younger woman (such as yourself) and I am no exception to that dream. However, I do tend to think more practically and it seems more realistic that women in that 30 to 40 range would be more interested in someone like me. Also, I can not be very judgmental about a woman being divorced or having children since I am divorced and have a child. If there were a younger woman that found me desirable based on who I am and my strengths and character rather than my bank account like the women here, then I would be very happy to build a family with that person.
One very important thing in all of my decisions is how it will affect my daughter. I have shown her pictures of Russia and the beautiful cities and country sides and also pictures of the young ladies I see on this site. So far she seems very interested. She thinks that Russia is a very nice looking place and she loves travel so it may be part of our upcoming plans. Whenever I show her pictures of the old buildings with their wonderful architecture she is impressed. I have explained to her that in North America an antique is something around 100 years old. Then I show her pictures of Russian churches that are over 500 years old and she is so surprised. I also think that she would love meeting the children there and finding out what games they play and what toys they like.
Another thing that I have explained to my daughter is that the type of relationships that adults have is very different from children and that sometimes grown ups just need to be around another older person. She knows a lot about family from the teaching I try to give her, the examples of our friends and from her schooling. Even though she and I are a family of just two most of the time, she likes the thought of another younger brother or sister one day. I think she would adjust well to daddy finding a new wife.
Thank you again and best wishes for now,
Richard
September 1, 2008 at 11:00 am
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September 22, 2008 at 12:51 pm
I see dozens of girls like Snejana on the Moscow metro every day. Amazing. If western guys knew a bit more they’d be over here in droves.
January 22, 2009 at 2:13 pm
She is prettier than a woman from a USA film for sure. first, she is russian and comes from other ethnicy, there are many reasons to look different from USA Women.
Talking about this girl, she has a particulary beauty and for sure she could to be a model. She has an angel in herself 🙂
Saludos, Jose
Chile
February 19, 2009 at 7:45 am
She looks prettier than than they do.
February 27, 2009 at 5:11 pm
“..Today I found the Queen to reign my heart..
March 1, 2009 at 9:39 am
Christian,
This is one of my favourite songs, thank you so much!
March 1, 2009 at 10:20 am
I would love to get to know the girl in the fotos here. I think she’s an incredible girl from her eyes.
On thing I really appreciate, I don’t see any malace in her eyes. That’s rare indeed to me…..
March 1, 2009 at 10:53 am
Ahh Wolverine..
You might want to see who wrote the comment right before yours.. 🙂
March 1, 2009 at 6:18 pm
It’s possible that I should learn how to read….. I can write but not read….. Strange, isn’t it…. :P:P:D
For some unknown reason, I thought taht writing in the third person would be endearing…… I think that’s what lack of sleep does to ones mind….