One of our readers was kind enough to submit his own personal statistics on what he went through in an attempt to find a Russian Lady he could communicate with.
He went through one of the sites that operated by selling address and contact information at $20 a piece.
His findings and comments are as follows:
I was just on my marriage agency site, and I just thought I would share some number with you quickly. Out of 47 credits (address requests) here is the final tally:
Women who are out of town temporarily 5
Women who don’t answer emails (invalid email address?) 10
Women who have found someone (after I was charged) 4
Women who refused contact (I was charged anyway) 15
Women who have not visited the site in over 30 days 7Total 41
This leaves exactly 6 women, of which I am sure I’m not compatible with at least a couple, and the rest are spread out from Kiev to Krasnoyarsk…not the best scenario to meet a few different ladies, from which to choose a spouse, now is it?
Given this experience..
Indeed it’s not..
October 27, 2006 at 5:46 pm
Hey man… I can agree with what R W said about 80/20 rule. I have had nothing but bad experiences from these sites. I believe the only way to meet one of these beautiful princesses is to simply go to Russia…
October 27, 2006 at 11:16 pm
Just out of curiosity, why Russian women? Nothing against them because all women are lovely. But I’m curious as to why you’d select a particular culture? I’ll admit, I was fascinated by the idea many years ago–I just didn’t know why so I gave it up.
October 28, 2006 at 12:46 am
I was married to a Russian woman and it was the biggest deception of my life.When she arrived to USA , brough in a little book with names,phones number, just in case nothing happen,the only smart thing that I did was a prenup, she had a boyfriend waiting in Russia until she would get green card to divorce me and bring him over(nice move )
Not all women from Russia are the same, so be careful, there are sincere woman that would love to meet a good man and have a better life.
by the time I discover everything, she was working an old rich guy, a lover and the one in Russia. Be smart , test and prove everything , before you commit to marriage.
The law in our country is not as good as it should be in this kind of cases, I did my best for her to be deported but ……. nothing happen, just be careful.
October 28, 2006 at 2:18 am
Really, I don’t know why guys put themselves through this agency stuff. Scam , scam, scam. What particularily innovative way to you want to be scammed? There’s many !
Why would they have YOUR best interests at heart? Wouldn’t it be more financially rewarding to just have many meetings without j-u-s-t quite any success so you can be kept on the hook. Show the odd — say 1 in a hundred or so — success to keep the belief that yes it may somehow be possible. Thousands of girls and marriages you can count on two hands. Something seem not quite right there?
It’s not like the mafia is gonna gun you down on the street or something. That’s not your real challenge!
The challenge is to learn / understand the culture and some language. Then it’s all in your hands. Sure it’s good to have some helpful advisor along the way .. but someone whom otherwise stays the hell out of your affairs unless by request.
October 28, 2006 at 2:52 am
Hi Nightrider36,
Why don’t you come to Russia and just see for yourself? My challenge to you is that once you’ve been here you more then likely will never look at the women that you are used to the same way again.
Aside from that you can also click the TAG box on the home page and select “Why Russian Women” and you will immediately see all articles and comments related to this tag.
Good Luck..
October 28, 2006 at 9:44 am
So, wait. What you’re saying is, if I’m expecting to get Xenia Onatopp, my expectations are not only unrealistically high, but that I might have to put some real effort into finding her?
Might as well tell me there’s no Severed Limb Fairy.
October 28, 2006 at 1:57 pm
Hi Mrire,
Yes.. As with all good things in life that have any value.. You DO have to work for it my friend.
Please don’t fall for this Mail Order Bride Crap that is unfortunately so common out there on the web.
Any Man who actually believes in that B.S. is actually a Mail Order Guy himself and unfortunately most like may deserve what he gets.
Read what themirror is saying above. Because he’s got the right overall idea.
October 28, 2006 at 2:00 pm
Hi Alberto,
Welcome aboard.. sorry to hear about your terrible experience. I don’t know how you met this woman but I can only assume that it was through the dysfunctional and traditional means that have created so many other problems for both Men and Women.
I recognized this as a huge potential pitfall early on and realize that there had to be a better way.. but as with all things that are worthwhile it involves more verification and checking.
Anyways I hope you will find your happiness with a REAL Russian Woman who is sincere because what you actually experienced in my mind does happen but its in the minority among the these women according to my time living in Russia.
If you are ready to give it another shot go ahead and contact me and we will do everything to do it right this time.
Cheers, GL
October 28, 2006 at 10:21 pm
I guess it is my position to defend the legitimate introduction services.
Most are not legit, but I have written articles for some that are owned by Russian women who have married Western men. These articles were primers on Russian culture, language differences and the warning signs of being conned. These were freelance articles done many years ago.
The first part of the advice is not to rush into anything if you are going through an introduction service. Spend a few months (1 to 3) and go through as many sites as possible. You will begin to notice the ones that are very professional from the nonprossesional. Paying $20 per profile should have been the guy’s first warning. Twenty dollars for a package deal (50 to 75 profiles) or a monthly subscription to as many profiles. Also, see if they are ‘recycling’ pictures or letters every few weeks. Another warning should be if a particular profile only has glamour shots and not photos of the woman in her natural environment. Any scammer can copy, paste or save these glamour photos from any modeling agencies.
Some of the honest services do have a screening process. Also, they make lists of ‘taboo’ companies and have services for the guys to report suspicious profiles. Same woman, different names, birthdates and locations would be the first clue. Another way is to check out sites like this one and message boards that center on Foreign Brides. If the woman has her profile on many sites, but all her facts and figures are the same… she is just circulating herself to have a better chance of landing the right one. Look for key words in their profiles. A vague profile should be avoided. It is normally a sign that the person has ulterior motives than a happy marriage.
The reason why I will defend introduction services, because most people do not have the qualities to live in another country or let alone be an expatriate. 1 in 5 Americans own a passport. It will be a small minority who will take the time to learn another language, customs and find a place to live and work. So there must be alternatives for the rest.
Nothing is foolproof or ready made. I didn’t use a service, but spending a great deal of money on long distance phone charges, trips to the Ukraine, marriage arrangements, converting my house, immigration attorney fees, visa applications, international moving expenses and new furniture. On the average, I will spend roughly $10,000.00 in total expenses. Either way you will be spending a great deal of time and money.
Outside of romance. It is all about risk. What kind of price will you pay by marrying a Russian woman over an American one???
October 29, 2006 at 5:27 am
I agree with Joe. There are some very reputable agenices out there but they are becoming more the rare breed. I must have read 50 or more sites until I narrowed it down to 3. I also did not have the time or money to relocate and live in Russia to find my wife. In a way, I envy those men who do. Being a physician with an active practice and two growing children, I would never leave them to live in Russia for an extended period of time. The next best thing were the agencies and lucky for me, it all worked out in the long run.
In case anyone is interested, here is what it costs me to love a Russian lady. The figures are an approximate, give or take $500.00
Monthly subscription to agency that allows me to write unlimited emails to as many ladies as I want: $75/month for 6 months = $900.00
Monthly subscription to same agency that allows me to write unlimited emails to my future wife:
$43/month for 14 months = $602.00
4 plane tickets to Russia @1000 RT = $4000.00
4 round trip train tickets = $1120.00
Taxi transfers for each trip = $400.00
Birthday party for my future lady on my 3rd trip: $300.00 including tip for approximately 15 people
Enagagement ring (she picked it out) $300.00 A very classy and elegant diamond ring
Various gifts to my Russian family and friends $1500.00
Fiance visa documentation = $1500.00 (did it all by myself, no lawyers involved here)
Plane Ticket for my lady and her daughter $1800.00
Wedding and documentation 1 month after landing in the States = $200.00
TOTAL COST = $12,622.00
Waking up next to her every morning to a beautiful wife and mother who supports her husband and takes care of him and knowing that she loves me as much as I love her = PRICELESS
A SMALL price to pay for happiness. I spent more just for my ex’s engagement ring. If I could find it, I’d pawn it in a minute.
October 29, 2006 at 2:53 pm
Hi Joe,
Good points here. There are clearly different levels that one can approach finding a relationship with.. And I think this whole selling addresses approach is the “Lowest Common Denominator” when it comes to this. I completely agree with the fact that nothing is all bad or all good but there is quite alot of static out there in terms of determining what the real deal is.
In anycase this whole process as you’ve spelled out is not for the timid of heart. But for guys like us it’s certainly worth it.
November 20, 2006 at 4:17 pm
Hi GL
(pls just excuse any spelling)
Interesting enough i was just working out what it will cost to go to Russia, and well, where in Russia, it is so huge!
I live in South Africa,
Anyway, i have joined a site that offers free services and stuff like that, i have submitted my profile and picture, and within 2 days i have received over 55 emails, well they all beautiful ladies(i have never seen so many beautiful woman)
I need to subscribe to read the mails, but that doesn’t bother, it is just the fact that i now have to reply to so many girls and needless to say, 95% of them are very attractive,
Going to Russia just makes more sense, but to meet so many woman just seems crazy, i dont believe it is impossible, the agency
offers tours and holidays where you can meet woman you like and sort of check them out, chat and supposedly see with of them are
most compatible,
Iam up for the adventure, but there are
so many stories about Russia, and scams
and woman, i found your site very interesting, when i was searching for some answers, but what will the best option be?
Every site has success stories and bla bla bla, but is there really the chance of finding such a beautiful woman and not being scammed, and where is the true life stories of/ or even South African men finding
Russian woman and that been married for 5 years or more, and what is the best site’s for doing it the right way?
Trip
South Africa
November 20, 2006 at 4:21 pm
So many woman, so few men? can we not just have 10 wives again like in the old days?
January 2, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Russian woman may be beautiful but they can be a world of trouble. Eastern european woman are smart, devious, learn quickly and with their inherent hardness, they are eager to take advantage of a man. The cultural differences between a western man and eastern european woman are immense. The everyday beautiful woman that in their culture has to scratch and claw her way through just normal Russian life will quickly predicate a western man especially if she goes to his country. In the majority of cases a Russian woman will be a big painful, time consuming, and expensive mistake.
January 2, 2007 at 10:41 pm
hi folks, so those who have been to russia or are living there. i wanna ask you where is the best place to visit in russia to meet women, and what is the night life like. thanks 🙂
January 4, 2007 at 1:31 am
The same could be said about most American women Max. However, you’re right about one thing, the cultural differences between them and American men can be a major source of trouble. There are gold diggers everywhere too. Maybe a lot of men’s problems would evaporate if they just stop wasting their lives for some woman’s approval, and just be the best person they can be.
Taras
January 4, 2007 at 8:35 pm
Max,
So I guess you are going to settle in with a “Good Old Fashioned” American girl somewhere? Is that your alternative of better solution? Sorry for being so harsh but if you are going to slam something let’s see if you can come up with a better alternative instead.. GL
May 5, 2007 at 12:29 am
On the whole issue of actually meeting them, Net intro’s or in person, in the quest for Eurasian/Western love and happiness …
Without throwing too wide a brush, my own opinion is that there are only a few websites which are worthwhile. They are well-known and have excellent credibility. The rest … “Why are so many so naive?
In person … Just like here. A guy’s gotta have some social skills and in my opinion a bunch more time than a week x 3 or 4.
Combining both I suppose, and having some good transportation or transportation options while there seems about the best possible.
Learning Russian also seems like a good idea. Spending six months instead of six days can go a long way to helping the language learning curve.
Yes, I have heard much about the failed relationships to Westerners. Natalia has some good points as to why. My own take is that this is due to a lack of good perspective, planning, choice and the clash of cultures.
When I look objectively, the failures seem to have had it written all over them.
“contact me”, wrote GL. So contact him already! Dah!
I decided to change residence to Russia due primarily to the above possible problems and to escape the huge Western Feminazi social mess. Voting with the feet.
Only a small percentage of Russian girls actually want to leave. But almost everyone does want “to leave their unfulfilling life”.
Therefore being there is one less objection to buying an offer.
More specifically, if you want to sell yourself to someone, (for heaven’s sake I use an analogy, so give me a break here); then, you must sell to them what they already WANT to buy.
Whadaya got Mister? is always going on in their sweet little heads and hearts.
For those who’ve got to return, then I’d say, well, you’re going to have to be even more sensitive to her happiness meter due to the gigantic cultural shock. There are going to be some massive glitches which will test the relationship.
Is it a good idea to land like a babe in the woods, all innocent, culturally ignorant and open to some nasty trouble because of it?
From what I understand GL is offering a helpful service for those who don’t have a Russian network.
My most succinct comment is that I think that in order to have success, that YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE AND IMPROVE and to learn to think like both a Russian man and girl.
Defeating the Cult of Feminazi … two happy hearts at a time …
Good luck … Удача …
Somebody buy my house damm it! I’ve got to go to my girl and make some bacon.
December 18, 2007 at 9:07 am
i went through an agency that charged $1.00 a letter i wrote a woman for 3 months before going to Russia to see her, she turned out to be a very nice woman so i went back 2 months later and stayed 3 months in Russia to get to know her,, i went back to Russia 2 more times. i married the woman 2 years ago and she is the best wife. blond and beautiful..
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