Yes.. you heard me right..
Even Anna Kournikova said this herself during her early rise to fame. She told the press that she didn’t understand all of the attention she was getting over her beauty because in reality she was just a “normal” Russian Girl.
Some may have thought that this was a display of false modesty in the limelight of fame.
It wasn’t..
Because it is the Truth..
The standards for beauty in Russia are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT then the standards that we usually uphold in the US and the West. Anna Kournikova is proof of this. When she came onto the tennis scene NO ONE cared how good she was on the court.. Everyone came to see where did this Alien Princess come from and if she was for real.
Here’s a quick rule of thumb to use when measuring beauty if you live in the US.
Take girls that you would typically rate as a 10, 9 or 8..
Subtract 3 (maybe even 4) and this is how these girls would stack up in Russia.
When a friend of mine first travelled to Russia years ago many girls that he met would innocently ask him.
We love to watch your American MTV.. But how come we don’t see any beautiful women on it?
He was shocked by this question but as he looked around he could understand why this was such a big mystery for these girls.
If you ever flip on Channel 1 when you come to Russia I’m sure you will catch at least a glimpse of one of their many live variety shows which features various famous singers and actors performing on stage.
The first time I watched this I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. In terms of beautiful girls it just completely BLEW AWAY anything that i’ve ever seen on TV in the States. These women and therefore the shows themselves showed ALOT more Class and Culture then what is typically available in the States.
Of course the big irony is this…
People around the world who watch American TV think just the opposite. American TV shows have been aired here for a number of years as well and because of this many Russian Girls think that America is just FILLED with gorgeous women.
So compelling is this idea that I know 2 Russian guys who actually travelled across the US for 9 months searching for these “American Beauties”. What they said just blew my mind because of it’s raw honesty.
We couldn’t find any cute American Girls while we were there.. And the only Cute Girls we found were 2 visiting Russian Students!
Now one might read this post and think that I am TOTALLY HUNG UP on Beautiful Women..
Well OK.. to a degree yes.. I gotta be honest with you.. 😉
BUT..
The bigger reason is this..
When looking at the US and Russia we are dealing with 2 completely different worlds.
On one side you have millions of US girls that are FAT but also truly believe that they are “PHAT”..
Ahh Can you say Huge Ego.. No Substance?
And on the other side in Russia you have a huge number of girls that are beautiful and sexy beyond compare but IN ADDITION to this.. They also act like Classic Ladies too.
Can you say Class?
Sure you can..
Just come here for yourself and find out how to say it for real..
(Anna Kournikova is an ORDINARY Russian Girl – Part 2)
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August 18, 2006 at 6:24 pm
Well I’m going call you out .. just a bit .. on this one. I would guess about 10 maybe 20% of the women are cute in N. America. It’s just that they have horrendous attitudes, just awful. The rest “think” that they are 8 – 10 ‘s when they most certainly are not even close.
But that’s what you get in this pussy worshipping culture. They’re all goddesses.
Then you have to use reverse player psychology just to deal with them. Bah!!
Then around 30 the panic starts when the worshipping stops.
August 18, 2006 at 9:08 pm
Hi Mirror..
Read my latest post “Anna Korunikova is an Ordinary Russian Girl – Part 2”
Cheers
GL
August 22, 2006 at 1:43 am
Most American women to me are far uglier inside than they ever could be on the outside. I have met a few that certianly were not lookers in the classical sense, but they were real women without a doubt. Unfortunately, most women are loud, demanding, bitchy, rude, self aggrandizing, selfish, sociopathic and vapid beyond belief. So the observations the Russian guys made was spot on. I’ve met quite a few Russians and I agree women from that country are definitely on average either beautiful or attractive, without the rotten attitude. I have Russian and Ukrainian blood myself, and with my Slavic appearance I can imagine why people thought Anna Kournikova was some beautiful alien who fell to earth. To me, she’s very pretty but I wonder how being in the spotlight affected how she views others and herself. We know how bad for women it is to put them on a pedastal and worship them.
August 22, 2006 at 10:31 pm
Hi Taras,
Fame is a very addictive poison for most people. It takes a very mature or grounded person to be able to handle it. Just take a look at someone like Michael Jackson to see what happens when someone is exposed to fame early on.
I don’t know where Anna Kournikova fits into this but I trust that she will be just fine.
August 23, 2006 at 9:18 am
Taras,
I’ve written a pretty detailed post inspired and sparked by your comments above 🙂 So keep the comments coming!
GL
October 23, 2006 at 12:41 am
One reason, I suspect women are more attractrive there is Genes.
Well “hurrah Captain obvious” some might say..
After all is everything genetic?
yes, but I like to take this discussion a bit further yet.
Higher average looks than in the USA isnt only limited to eastern european women, but to many european nationalities, especially if you account for the girth an easy lifestyle creates.
if you also subtract the attraction to us, that their minds havent been poisned by feminism yet,and you still have to explain difference.
Well folks, here is the brutal truth as I see it.
The gene pool in the US is simply shallower.
Why?
We are decended mostly by people that couldnt hack it at home.
So this country has been settled selectively by people of limited abilities.
Since in women lesser genes will show mostly in looks here is our explanation.
The only reaosn we have been successful as a country is the core of people that cma eearly for reaosn of religious or political prosecution.
Those are likely not a selection of the unable of their home countries.
Add to that our incredible resources (best navigable rivers in the world, lots of coal and ores etc etc) and it explains our success.
which is likely entirely undeserved and an accident of history.
Anotehr exmaple is, even tho I was born in the USA I grew up in germany.
In college in the USA I was by far the very best chessplayer in our ( large) dorms, but in highscool in germany I was a middling player only.
Admitedly it was a high end highschool but the comparison goes further.
I met more stupid people in my first major US university than in my german highschool.
Need more?
Over her ein the USA at work (Gov research Lab) I have arepuations as an usually able problems solvber and scientist, but bakc in my german highschool yes, I wa sone of the smarter kids but nothing to write home about.
Conclusion:
The gene pool in the USA as a whole, is simply shallower than in europe.
So i am a bit concerend, I suspect many of my fellow country men may not be deserving of these women.
Luckily it seems, mostly a higher end cut of americans seems to do this RW thing yet.
I hope it stays like this and RW dont become too popular here, for their own good.
I hate seeing the average New jersey guido whose accident of location gave him access to a 90k job grab one of the wonderful creatures.
Also the effect on the great nation of Russia of this has got to be terrible.
Russia is the only european country that has a crack at not dying ( all other great european nations have such poor demographics paired with immigration ,there will be no england or germany or france the way we currently understand it, those will no longer be nations but just place names of countries)
So what to do?
I admit i myself will likely marry my russian gf in the next few months.
But in the interest of humanity as a whole perhaps I will consider moving my fmailiy to russia so those good genes dont go under, in the sewer that our country is becoming.
October 23, 2006 at 12:42 am
Oh and excuse my typos fellas, I am typing from a laptop in bad lighting and I didnt spend the time to proofread.. 😮
October 23, 2006 at 3:10 am
Hi Fredrick..
The US is not an accidental superpower. When you live in an ex-commmunist country you understand very well why Free Markets work so incredibly well. Japan is the 2nd largest economy in the world.. yet they very little natural resources.. even less then Germany and they are still significantly ahead of Germany in terms of GDP.
Frederick.. Frankly I think you’ve been hanging out way too long with some very Old European attitudes because I’m picking up some very common “Elitest” thinking that has a very long history in your part of the world.
Free Markets apply not only to economies but to Humans as well. If the average “Jersey guido” who makes 90k as you put it is able to come here and find himself a lovely wife then all the more power to him as long as he’s a good husband and father.
It’s more then likely that he will find a fantastic woman to be his wife and his children’s mother. What he offers her in the form of stability and love is a whole lot better then the existing alternatives available to her. So I would be very careful if you are going to criticize that.. because quite frankly you can’t.. it’s a private matter between 2 grown adults who should have the freedom to pursue happiness which is an underlying principal within the US.
Also this whole take that you have about the US being populated with less then capable immigrants quite frankly is pretty outrageous to me.. because number 1 it goes against the core belief that i’ve illustrated above in terms of allowing people free movement to pursue happiness.. and Number 2 I could easily apply that same prejudice against you and your family since you were born in the US but now live in Europe.. So why is it different for everyone else except for you?
Now saying that I will agree with you that there are clearly genetic lines and traits that are incredibly beautiful.. but this is not enough by itself to gain my respect or attention. The other half that is required is the cultivation that comes from a particular upbringing and culture.
In terms of “protecting this” genetic line from intermixing with others as you’ve suggested.. that sounds a little too much like some of the stuff Hitler used to talk about in regards to “racial purity”.
Frederick.. here’s the bottom line as far as Men are concerned.. Our level of cultivation and courage is far more important then our race.
We call this.. “Being a True Gentleman” and this is what I’ve been trying to promote on this blog because these are the men that have the highest probability of success, happiness and stability.
I’ve seen distinguished Gentlemen from all cultures who would make more then a few of these women very happy. And it’s not anyone’s business to crticize them for the choices they make for love. Especially not because of their race..
The same thing goes for the women here. Yes many of them are beautiful.. but if they weren’t cultivated and if they didn’t have traditional feminine values.. I wouldn’t be here and this blog would never have existed.
Bottom line.. I don’t care what the guy’s “genetics” are.. all I care about is his level of cultivation.. and if he’s willing to take a risk in his life as opposed to some well to do aristocrat who may want to sit on his ass and complain about the world..
Guess which Man deserves the prize?
October 23, 2006 at 4:06 pm
Pravda!
October 23, 2006 at 6:20 pm
I love a woman with tight genes… LOL
October 28, 2006 at 4:33 pm
I spent a month in Russia in 1999. I speak Russian (a lot better in the past than now). I have been declaring the title of the post to folks for seven years! Indeed the truth. I’ll be visiting this site more often. Gotta get back to Russia. Great place!
October 28, 2006 at 7:08 pm
Hello Ctari Soldat!
Welcome aboard.. I think it’s cool you’ve been telling people the exact same title on this post 🙂
Everyone I told this to in the states had a very difficult time accepting this. What was your experience?
Hope to hear from you again and please tell your friends about us.
GL
November 28, 2006 at 7:14 am
anna is my favourite tennis player
she should improve herself in tennis not in other plans.
March 19, 2007 at 3:01 pm
Cheers, gotta keep the ball flying from this part of the court. Some Russian woman’s musings on genetics, beauty standards, and how to handle all this…
http://russianwomenspeak.wordpress.com/2006/10/02/why-so-many-beautiful-women-in-russia-eastern-europe/
http://russianwomenspeak.wordpress.com/2007/03/15/how-to-win-a-beautiful-russian-woman-different-beauty-standard-and-the-art-of-compliment/
Sincerely,
Comrade Natalia
August 25, 2007 at 12:20 am
i’ll take this as an eye opener …
so i guess i can tell a girl u look russian and tell her it’s a compliment …
hehe …
i know that lame … hehe …
August 26, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Hi subcorpus,
Yes by all means if and when you meet a russian lady and feel inspired to make a real compliment.. you go right ahead without fear of reprisal or scorn. You will be pleasantly surprised by the results. 🙂
GL
September 29, 2007 at 3:44 pm
Would Maria Sharapova also be considered average in Russia?
September 30, 2007 at 7:39 am
Hi Hero,
Maria Sharapova is pretty attractive so I’d say she’s a little above average from what I see over here.
I’ve heard other ladies here in Siberia tell me that they thought she was just an ordinary pretty Russian girl.
Don’t waste too much time.. just come over here and find out for yourself big guy..
GL
September 30, 2007 at 3:34 pm
Well, maybe I’d still have a chance with a girl who looks like Maria. After all, Wonderlander tells me that I’m good-looking. 🙂
March 10, 2008 at 6:38 pm
[…] No doubt even if girls like her are considered to be ordinary girls here in Siberia. […]
March 10, 2008 at 9:27 pm
All Maria needs to do is smile more. Are most Russian women that solemn?
March 11, 2008 at 7:47 am
Hi Hero I think the photographer simply captured Maria either while she was trying to concentrate and stay competitive or when she was winding down from an intense practice or competition.
Also from what I understand she has more then her share of paparazzi following her so I can totally understand it if she takes on a semi-defensive expression.
GL
March 11, 2008 at 9:30 am
Hi Hero! Do you mind a serious discourse? ))
Westerners are readily disturbed if someone is not constantly upbeat. But in Russian culture smiles are basically relevant to what one is hearing / saying / feeling / thinking.
We are often nagged for being “serious” or “sullen” while just concentrated on some action (LOL, have you heard Sharapova in the game?), thinking (disturbingly much!)), straining eyesight (some folks are shy to wear glasses when needed), or in the neutral face mode.
A great deal depends on the woman’s innate contour of lower lip, and habitual articulation. Russian language does not require major strain of muscles.
There’s a general difference in expression. Westerners play up. I vividly remember one American doctor guy: well-rounded, chiselled look, spiritual, a good conversationalist, but theatralizing every word as if born a stand-up comedian. This jammed down all the “electricity”… ) Russians rather play down.
Take a glance at “Happy Nations” in my “Rich or Poor vs. High or Low”, and also “Princess Syndrom” about the standards of modesty.)
The older, the more a Russian woman has suffered (and it moulds into her features). The younger, the freer of difficulties, problems and responsibilities, – and the farther from ages-old tradition of reserved composure.
A “life is good!” smile is usually so natural as it can almost pass unnoticed. 😦
(Slogan: Welcome to Russia for your own mona Lisa!)))
Sincerely,
Comrade Natalia
March 11, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Thank you, Natalia and GL. Looks like I still have a lot to learn!
June 25, 2008 at 12:50 pm
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May 21, 2010 at 2:22 am
Just found this blog.
I think the main point here isn’t beauty. Anna Kournikova is very beautiful, but here “the beauty” has been considered more as a package of one’s character, attitude, behaviour AND beauty.
Though I might not fully get what you mean by “class” in the russian women. Is clothing style part of it?